Release Date: August 09, 2024
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the valuations of the three small dispositions in the quarter and potential future sales to reduce debt? A: Lucinda Baier, CEO, explained that the three communities disposed of were small and not necessarily representative of the entire portfolio. Brookdale is generally satisfied with its current assets but remains open to opportunities that improve shareholder value. The company aims to deleverage primarily through the expansion of adjusted EBITDA.
Q: How does Brookdale HealthPlus impact rates and retention, and are there other healthcare services you plan to offer? A: Lucinda Baier, CEO, highlighted that Brookdale HealthPlus attracts residents who value fewer urgent care visits and hospitalizations. This program is expected to increase occupancy and associate retention, leading to better profitability. Brookdale receives revenue from Medicare Advantage plans for quality metrics, and while they are excited about healthcare practitioners in their communities, they are focused on capturing current opportunities.
Q: Can you provide additional data on marketing ramp and conversion trends, and explain the timing of marketing expense recognition? A: Lucinda Baier, CEO, noted that occupancy improved from June to July, and marketing spend is being aligned with key selling seasons. Dawn Kussow, CFO, added that marketing expenses are being shifted to the third quarter, impacting the timing of expense recognition but not the annual cash spend.
Q: Why did you renew the Omega Healthcare Investors lease early, and what about the Ventas lease renewal? A: Lucinda Baier, CEO, stated that renewing the Omega lease early allows Brookdale to access $30 million in rent-free CapEx, improving cash flow and liquidity. For the Ventas lease, Brookdale will only renew if it generates positive cash flow after CapEx, ensuring decisions benefit shareholders.
Q: How should we think about occupancy trends given the advantages of HealthPlus and caregiver retention? A: Dawn Kussow, CFO, expects a seasonal uptick in occupancy from the second to third quarter, better than pre-pandemic levels. Lucinda Baier, CEO, added that Brookdale's private pay model results in slightly different occupancy trends compared to the industry, which includes Medicaid residents.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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