Release Date: January 09, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide insights into the pace of repayments and expectations for new growth versus repayments in the coming months? A: Christian Oberbeck, CEO, explained that the recent quarter saw $85 million in originations, with significant redemptions, notably from a five-year NVIDA investment. While predicting exact origination and redemption rates is challenging, the company maintains a robust portfolio and pipeline. Henri Steenkamp, CFO, emphasized the long-term growth perspective over quarterly volatility.
Q: What are the mechanics of calling or repricing SBIC debentures, and what is the current average cost? A: Henri Steenkamp, CFO, clarified that SBIC debentures can be repaid during specific periods (end of August and February). SBIC II is outside its reinvestment period, allowing cash from repayments to be used for follow-ons or debenture repayment. The decision to repay depends on cash needs and interest rate arbitrage.
Q: How does Saratoga approach realizing equity gains, and what factors influence this strategy? A: Michael Grisius, CIO, stated that Saratoga typically realizes equity gains when companies are sold, as they are usually minority investors. The strategy involves thorough due diligence to assess co-investment opportunities, aligning with the company's focus on businesses with strong market positions and cash flow.
Q: With a high cash balance, why did Saratoga decide to sell equity in the market? A: Christian Oberbeck, CEO, explained that selling equity at NAV is a strategic decision for long-term growth, despite current cash levels. Equity sales provide permanent capital and are seen as a long-term strategic move rather than a response to short-term cash needs.
Q: What is the refinancing risk in the portfolio given current market terms? A: Michael Grisius, CIO, noted that while some deals exited due to aggressive market terms, the overall portfolio is not highly vulnerable to refinancing risk. The expectation is that origination will pick up with M&A activity, balancing any potential payoffs.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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