Teledyne Technologies Inc (TDY) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Record Sales and Strategic ...

GuruFocus.com
01-23
  • Record Sales Increase: 5.4% in the fourth quarter.
  • Non-GAAP Earnings Per Share: Record figures for both the fourth quarter and full year.
  • Non-GAAP Operating Margins: Record levels for the fourth quarter and full year.
  • Free Cash Flow: Record annual figure of over $1.1 billion in 2024.
  • Digital Imaging Segment Sales: Increased 2.5% in the fourth quarter.
  • Instrumentation Segment Sales: Increased 10.1% in the fourth quarter.
  • Marine Instruments Sales: Increased 21.1% in the fourth quarter.
  • Environmental Instruments Sales: Increased 1.7% in the fourth quarter.
  • Test and Measurement Systems Sales: Increased 2.3% year over year in the fourth quarter.
  • Instrumentation Operating Margin: Increased to 29.1% on a non-GAAP basis in the fourth quarter.
  • Aerospace and Defense Electronics Sales: Increased 6.8% in the fourth quarter.
  • Engineered Systems Segment Revenue: Increased 11% in the fourth quarter.
  • Cash Flow from Operating Activities: $332.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.
  • Capital Expenditures: $29 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.
  • Depreciation and Amortization Expense: $77.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.
  • Net Debt: Just under $2 billion at the end of 2024.
  • 2025 Sales Growth Outlook: Approximately 4% including Micropac acquisition.
  • 2025 Non-GAAP Earnings Growth Outlook: Approximately 8%.
  • Warning! GuruFocus has detected 7 Warning Sign with TDY.

Release Date: January 22, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Teledyne Technologies Inc (NYSE:TDY) achieved record sales in the fourth quarter, with a 5.4% increase from the previous quarter.
  • The company reported record non-GAAP earnings per share and operating margins for both the fourth quarter and the full year.
  • Teledyne Technologies Inc (NYSE:TDY) successfully closed the Micropac acquisition and expects to complete the Excelitas carve-out transaction in the first quarter of 2025.
  • The Digital Imaging segment, which represents 54% of the company's portfolio, saw record sales with a 2.5% increase year-over-year.
  • The Instrumentation segment experienced a 10.1% sales increase in the fourth quarter, driven by strong growth in Marine instruments and Environmental Instruments.

Negative Points

  • Sales to industrial machine vision markets declined year-over-year, despite reaching the highest quarterly sales level in 2024.
  • The Engineered Systems segment saw a decrease in operating profit due to higher costs to complete estimates on certain programs.
  • The company is cautious about its 2025 outlook due to the strong US dollar, which could impact international sales.
  • Sales of X-ray detectors for consumer discretionary dental markets declined year-over-year.
  • The legacy Digital Imaging business is experiencing a slow recovery, with some customers attempting to lower prices, which the company is resisting to maintain margins.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Robert, you referenced 4% growth top line in the 2025 guidance. Is that 3% organic and a point from Micropac, or is that 4% organic? A: No, what I mentioned is, as you said, a little over 4%, 3.2% organic and about 1% through acquisitions. Acquisitions include Micropac, Noah, but they also include parts of Valeport and a part of Adimec. It does add up to about 1.1%, so 1% -- total is 4.2%.

Q: If Excelitas closes on schedule, can you talk about what that adds in revenue, EBITDA earnings to the year? A: Yes, I think it depends on when it closes, as you can appreciate. But I'm going to say about $15 million a month, Noah.

Q: Can you talk about the 3% -- or slightly over 3% organic assumption, especially in short cycle versus long cycle businesses? A: On an organic growth basis, our target is about 3.2%. Instruments are expected to grow with a combined organic growth of 3.8%. Digital Imaging is expected to grow just under 3%, maybe 2.8%. Aerospace and Defense is targeting 4%, which will jump to 8% with Micropac. Engineered Systems is assumed to grow about 2.3% organically.

Q: On the Digital Imaging outlook, how are you thinking about vision, FLIR defense, and healthcare recovery? A: In '24 over '23, FLIR increased in almost all areas, with defense growing about 9%. For '25, FLIR is expected to increase about 3.9%, with defense being very healthy. Traditional Digital Imaging is expected to grow modestly, around 3.1%, with some contribution from the Adimec acquisition.

Q: Can you level set the margin outlook and drivers for 2025? A: We finished the year at 22% and expect it to grow by 80 basis points. Digital Imaging is expected to get about 80 basis points growth. Instruments had strong margin growth, so we're being cautious with a 45 basis points increase. Aerospace and Defense margins might increase by 14-15 basis points due to the Micropac acquisition.

Q: With 2025, you're talking about 3.2% organic growth. Does that include FX, and how much short cycle recovery do you assume? A: Yes, we account for a 1.3% headwind from FX. Short-cycle businesses should grow modestly due to FX, with Test and Measurement and Environmental in the low single digits. FLIR will grow about 3.9%, mainly from Defense.

Q: On the Excelitas acquisition, should we assume some accretion to non-GAAP earnings in '25 once that's closed? A: Yes, if it closes, we expect about $15 million a month in revenue, with $0.15 to $0.20 of accretion for the full year.

Q: Can you give us a sense of the order trends and any areas that have picked up more meaningfully? A: Overall, book to bill for the company is about 1.04. Instruments have a book to bill of 1.12, led by Marine at 1.23. Digital Imaging's FLIR is positive at 1.03. Machine vision is recovering slowly, with order increases throughout the year.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

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