Release Date: January 28, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How should we think about the revenue acceleration in the first quarter compared to the full year guide? A: Martin St. George, President: The first quarter includes a 1.5-point shift due to Easter moving to the second quarter. The rest of the improvement is from the continued implementation of JetForward and the benefits from our initiatives. We're not assuming any dramatic changes in competitive capacity; it's about managing what we can control.
Q: Is Boston expected to be a RASM drag given the growth there? A: Martin St. George, President: RASM growth in Boston is less than elsewhere due to its growth. We're not back to our peak in Boston pre-NEA, and we're redeploying ASMs back into Northeast leisure markets.
Q: Should investors add $650 million to their 2025 EBIT outlook for normalized earnings? A: Joanna Geraghty, CEO: Yes, you should think of 2025 with $200 million to $300 million of EBIT, with similar amounts in 2026 and 2027, leading to $800 million to $900 million of EBIT by the end of JetForward. It's a multiyear strategy focused on long-term profitability.
Q: How does the CASM ex-fuel trend throughout the year, and what about the impact of Pratt & Whitney groundings? A: Ursula Hurley, CFO: CASM ex-fuel is elevated in Q1 due to maintenance timing and pilot wage increases. It will decrease in subsequent quarters. The Pratt & Whitney situation is fluid, but we expect to hit peak AOG in the next one to two years.
Q: Can you expand on what you're seeing in Caribbean and Latin markets? A: Martin St. George, President: International demand is strong, with Latin markets fully recovered and performing well. San Juan faces some capacity pressure, but overall, the demand profile is strong.
Q: What are your thoughts on competitive capacity in Fort Lauderdale? A: Martin St. George, President: Competitive capacity is down in Fort Lauderdale, and we're in a good environment. We're not expecting significant pullback from Spirit, and we're happy with Fort Lauderdale's performance.
Q: How are you thinking about alliances, especially overseas? A: Martin St. George, President: We have over 50 alliance partners globally, including international carriers. We're focused on growing this portfolio while negotiating potential domestic partnerships.
Q: What is the timing for the first-class product rollout? A: Martin St. George, President: The first install of first-class will be in 2026, with some CapEx in 2025 for seat design and certification. There will be no revenue benefit in 2025.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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