Release Date: January 30, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the current state of frac pricing and how it compares to a year ago? A: Ron Gusek, incoming CEO, explained that frac pricing has softened over the past year, with a peak in mid- to late 2022. The decline has been gradual, with older Tier 2 assets being most affected. However, next-generation assets, like the digi platform, have shown resilience in pricing as they head into 2025.
Q: How does Liberty Energy balance the power needs for frac operations with opportunities outside the oil patch? A: Ron Gusek emphasized the importance of controlling key variables in frac operations, including power supply. Liberty Energy's strategy involves vertical integration and ensuring efficiency by managing fuel supply and power generation assets. This approach allows them to maintain high service levels for their customers.
Q: What are the expected returns from deploying mobile power generation outside the oil and gas industry? A: Ron Gusek stated that returns will vary based on contract duration and application. Long-term contracts, like those for data centers, will have different return profiles compared to shorter-term bridge power contracts. Liberty Energy targets an average return profile in the mid- to high teens across its power business portfolio.
Q: Can you provide more details on the new variable speed natural gas-powered engine developed with Cummins? A: Ron Gusek noted that while the IP for the engine belongs to Cummins, Liberty Energy has an advantageous position as the launch partner. The engine offers lower fuel costs, longer time between overhauls, and reduced maintenance costs compared to diesel engines, enhancing operational efficiency and cost-effectiveness.
Q: How does Liberty Energy plan to compete in the power generation space against other entrants? A: Ron Gusek highlighted Liberty Energy's strengths in service delivery, supply chain management, and engineering expertise. The company aims to replicate its success in the frac business by offering a comprehensive solution that includes modular power generation assets, strong partnerships, and a focus on efficiency and reliability.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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