Release Date: January 30, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide insights into the data center market, particularly regarding backlog and lead times? A: Morten Wierod, CEO, explained that the data center market remains robust, with investments in AI and machine learning driving demand. Data centers accounted for 15% of electrification orders in 2024, up from 12% in 2023. Lead times have decreased to about 35 weeks from a peak of 50 weeks, indicating a normalization in supply constraints.
Q: What factors are influencing the margin improvement guidance for 2025? A: Ann-Sofie Nordh, Head of Investor Relations, noted that while corporate costs were lower in 2024, they are expected to rise in 2025, posing a headwind. Despite this, operational leverage from revenue growth and improvements in robotics and discrete automation are expected to support margin improvements.
Q: Why is the cash flow guidance for 2025 similar to 2024 despite expected revenue growth and margin expansion? A: Morten Wierod highlighted increased CapEx investments, particularly in electrification in North America and India, as a key factor. These investments aim to expand existing facilities and enhance automation, supporting growth in these markets.
Q: Can you elaborate on the electrification growth, especially in the construction vertical? A: Morten Wierod attributed growth to the broader trend of electrification across industries, driven by decarbonization efforts. This includes replacing traditional energy sources with electric propulsion, benefiting ABB's electrification, motion, and process automation businesses.
Q: What is the outlook for the e-mobility business in 2025? A: Morten Wierod stated that while e-mobility was a significant drag in 2024, losses are expected to halve in 2025. The introduction of new products like the T400 charger is anticipated to improve performance, with profitability expected later in the year.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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