Release Date: February 04, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How has the pace of loan repayments trended with the steepening of the yield curve, and what is the expectation for repayments in 2025? A: W. Patrick Mattson, President and COO, explained that while there was a significant acceleration in repayments during the fourth quarter, this was not primarily driven by interest rates but rather by loans reaching their business plans. He anticipates over $1 billion in repayments for 2025, likely occurring more in the middle to back end of the year.
Q: Do you expect originations to exceed repayments in the near term? A: Yes, Patrick Mattson confirmed that they expect originations to outpace repayments due to their current low leverage levels. They had a strong start in January with no repayments, indicating a trend towards increased originations.
Q: What asset classes are you targeting in your pipeline, and how does it compare to pre-pandemic times? A: CEO Matthew Salem stated that they continue to focus on institutional sponsorship and high-quality real estate, including multifamily, industrial, and student housing. They are also looking to add geographic diversity with European investments and are seeing demand in the data center sector.
Q: How are you viewing the office sector, given recent positive shifts? A: Matthew Salem noted that while there are early signs of recovery in the office sector, particularly for high-quality assets, liquidity is returning slowly. They are seeing leasing activity and some liquidity in the financing markets for well-leased office loans with long-term leases.
Q: How do you view additional stock repurchases versus new originations? A: Matthew Salem emphasized a balanced approach, highlighting that while they have been consistent buyers of undervalued stock, their primary business is to invest capital and make loans. They aim to maintain a balance between repurchasing shares and originating new loans.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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