Release Date: February 06, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Could you talk a little bit about what gives you confidence in the CML returns improving and the potential drag on the 2025 EPS guide based on those lower returns? A: Ryan Greenier, Executive Vice President and CFO, explained that they are at an inflection point with CMLs and confident about the portfolio's direction. The broad-based valuation adjustments that impacted returns in the first half of 2024 have largely abated. The economy remains strong, with values increasing for industrial properties and multi-family sectors. They have a 6.25% assumption for 2025, and while they expect improvement, they don't anticipate recovering all adjustments in 2025.
Q: Can you discuss the CAP losses of $90 million for 2025 and how much that changed from business growth versus CAP mitigation efforts? A: Ryan Greenier noted that CAP losses are slightly down from 2024, with exposure-adjusted numbers reflecting usual adjustments for changes in exposures and planned actions. Marita Zuraitis, CEO, added that they feel confident about their property underwriting and mitigation efforts, which are reflected in the 2025 numbers.
Q: How are you planning to execute growth across different lines of business? A: Marita Zuraitis highlighted that they are excited to share more details during their Investor Day in May. They have been focusing on demonstrating the earnings power of their multi-line model and are confident in their growth capabilities. Despite competitive dynamics, they believe they can continue to grow the business with the tools and capabilities they are building.
Q: With industry pricing approaching rate adequacy, does this change the strategic focus on reducing earnings volatility, particularly in property? A: Marita Zuraitis emphasized their long-standing focus on educators, which helps them navigate cycles and maintain strong retention. They do not focus on selling at the lowest price but understand competitive dynamics. Mark Desrochers, SVP, added that they offer a holistic product suite and manage volatility through thoughtful product offerings and partnerships.
Q: Any updates on changes to deductibles and roof schedules and their impact on the business? A: Mark Desrochers noted that they are seeing positive impacts from shifts in wind and hail deductibles and roof schedules, particularly in states with significant roof losses. They have also experienced lighter weather and improved claims processes, contributing to favorable reserve development.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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