Release Date: February 07, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Could you talk about the difference between the economic and financial impacts of the biometric experience and the time frame for the $167 million of favorable biometric claims experience from 2024 to flow through earnings? A: The economic impact gets amortized through the accounting results over the life of the business, typically around a 15-year-plus period. This means the economic claims experience will be reflected gradually in the financial results over this time frame. - Axel Andre, CFO
Q: Can you explain the deployable capital definition and whether rating agencies have approved this approach? A: The deployable capital metric incorporates regulatory capital, rating agency, and internal economic capital frameworks. We have high confidence in gaining recognition from rating agencies for the value of in-force business, which is factored into our deployable capital estimate. - Axel Andre, CFO
Q: How should we think about the value of in-force rolling through durable earnings power? A: The value of in-force represents the present value of underwriting and investment margins over the business's life. For example, a retro recapture increased the value metric by $1.5 billion, impacting 2025 earnings by $20 million, ramping up to $60 million by 2040. This demonstrates the long-term nature of earnings from in-force business. - Axel Andre, CFO
Q: What are the best capital deployment opportunities for 2025? A: Opportunities are strong across Asia, EMEA, and the US. In the US, there's a shift towards asset deals with biometric risk. In Asia, both Traditional and Financial Solutions businesses are thriving. In Europe, the focus is on longevity business, particularly in the UK, with potential opportunities in the Netherlands and Solvency II solutions. - Tony Cheng, CEO
Q: What is your interest in long-term care (LTC) transactions, given the market dynamics? A: We focus on LTC transactions that align with our existing in-force block, which has performed well historically. Transactions should be strategic, often bundled with other business blocks, and we prefer modest-sized blocks. This approach ensures alignment with our risk management and strategic goals. - Tony Cheng, CEO
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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