Release Date: February 12, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide insights into the timing and impact of repayments, deal activity, and realized losses for 2025? A: Bryan Donohoe, CEO, explained that the pace of market recovery accelerated towards the end of 2024, and they expect to maintain this pace in the first half of 2025. The focus remains on reducing risk-rated 4 and 5 loans, with capital flows being positive. The company aims to continue reducing these loans to improve their portfolio allocation.
Q: What environment is needed to increase the pace of originations and stabilize leverage levels? A: Bryan Donohoe, CEO, stated that reducing risk-rated 4 and 5 loans will be key to increasing originations. The company has been active in other non-ACRE vehicles, indicating readiness to participate in market opportunities. CFO Jeffrey Gonzales added that the focus remains on resolving underperforming loans before seeking accretive opportunities.
Q: Can you discuss the Boston Life Science deal and its current status? A: Bryan Donohoe, CEO, noted that the business plan for the Boston Life Science asset has shifted from full life science use to traditional office use due to a supply glut. This change impacts tenant improvement allowances and rents. The situation remains fluid, and they are in active dialogue with the borrower. CFO Jeffrey Gonzales mentioned that reserves on the asset were increased this quarter.
Q: What are your thoughts on the multi-family sector's performance and its outlook given interest rate changes? A: Bryan Donohoe, CEO, highlighted that multi-family fundamentals, such as absorption and rent growth, have been strong. The rate rise has muted transaction volumes but hasn't significantly impacted credit. The supply of new apartments is falling, which supports positive fundamentals. The company feels well-protected in the capital structure.
Q: What are your plans regarding CLO issuance in 2025, and how does it fit into your strategy? A: Bryan Donohoe, CEO, mentioned that CLO issuance is considered opportunistic for terming out leverage. The company sees competitive pricing from warehouse lenders and views CLOs as a nice-to-have rather than a must-have. CFO Jeffrey Gonzales added that warehouse lenders are currently the most attractive financing option.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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