Release Date: February 13, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the Zips bankruptcy and your exposure to the carwash segment? A: Peter Mavoides, President and CEO, explained that it's too early to discuss specifics about Zips as negotiations are ongoing. However, the company feels well-positioned with only three properties and 20 basis points of ABR exposure. Historically, recoveries have been $0.70 to $0.80 on the dollar. The carwash industry remains a strong investment area, with robust risk-adjusted returns and deep industry expertise across 54 operators.
Q: How has interest rate volatility impacted your business recently? A: Peter Mavoides noted that their transaction cycle is 60-90 days, so short-term interest rate volatility doesn't significantly affect pricing. The company raises capital in advance to insulate from such volatility. They expect downward pressure on cap rates, which was more pronounced in Q4 but is easing in Q1.
Q: Could you elaborate on the increased competition in the market and its impact on your transactions? A: Max Jenkins, Head of Investments, stated that competition has increased slightly, leading to modest cap rate compression. However, the transaction environment remains favorable, with ample opportunities for growth capital to middle-market operators. The company expects to transact in the mid- to high 7% cap rate range this year.
Q: What are your thoughts on equity issuance and capital needs for 2025? A: Mark Patten, CFO, mentioned that minimal equity issuance is needed to meet investment targets, with growing free cash flow and unsettled forward equity providing significant capital. The company remains opportunistic in capital raising, with a strong liquidity position and leverage at 3.8x.
Q: Can you discuss your disposition strategy and any focus areas for 2025? A: Peter Mavoides explained that dispositions are primarily for portfolio and risk management, not as a capital source. The focus in Q4 was on reducing carwash exposure below the 15% soft ceiling. Future dispositions will be driven by tenant and asset-level risks rather than systemic industry concerns.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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