Release Date: February 18, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the growth opportunity with Asian OEMs like Toyota and how significant it is for driving growth through 2027? A: Mark Delaney, Goldman Sachs - Analyst: Asian OEMs have been underrepresented in our revenue, primarily in Japan and India. Historically, our focus was on China. As the market shifted, we made it a strategic initiative to grow business with these OEMs outside China. Currently, they represent mid- to high single-digit levels of our revenue, and by 2027, we expect this to almost double, representing a significant growth opportunity.
Q: What are the expectations for customer mix and performance in China for 2025 and beyond? A: Mark Delaney, Goldman Sachs - Analyst: In 2025, the negative customer mix is driven by large customers like Ford, GM, and Mercedes reducing production. In China, global OEMs have lost market share, but we are developing business with domestic OEMs like Zeekr and Dongfeng. We expect our sales in China to be at a low point in 2025, with improvement starting in 2026.
Q: How are SmartCore bookings tracking, and what is the outlook for multi-domain controllers? A: Sachin Lawande, President, Chief Executive Officer, Director: SmartCore bookings are inherently lumpy due to their complexity. In 2024, we saw lower customer quoting activity, but expect it to pick up in 2025. Multi-domain controllers are integrating more functions, but full integration with ADAS will take longer. We expect SmartCore to continue growing, driven by demand for integrated cockpit domain controllers.
Q: What are the main drivers for the revised 2027 sales target, which is over $1 billion lower than previously expected? A: Sachin Lawande, President, Chief Executive Officer, Director: The main drivers are the market changes in China, reduced expectations for electrification, particularly BMS, and lower production expectations from our customers. These factors account for about 70-80% of the revised target.
Q: Can you elaborate on the free cash flow outlook for 2025 and the impact of working capital benefits from Q4 2024? A: Jerome Rouquet, Chief Financial Officer, Senior Vice President: The strong cash flow in Q4 2024 was driven by good collections, timing of engineering recoveries, and inventory reductions. These are not expected to recur in 2025. We anticipate a 40% conversion of EBITDA to free cash flow in 2025, consistent with recent quarters.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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