Release Date: February 18, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: With double-digit unit growth in residential versus 16% reported, was A2L a driver of that uptick, and when do you expect to be fully transitioned to the new technology? A: Paul Johnston, Executive Vice President, explained that in the fourth quarter, A2L had minimal impact as they were over 90% on the 410A. Pricing actions were around 8%, and more pricing actions are expected soon. Barry Logan, Executive Vice President, added that unit growth was 16% for the quarter, with price contributing an additional 3%. The transition to A2L will have a greater influence in 2025.
Q: Could you talk about Watsco Ventures' ownership position in HouseCall Pro? A: Aaron Nahmad, President, clarified that Watsco does not have ownership in HouseCall Pro but maintains a commercial relationship. The flagship in Watsco Ventures' portfolio is OnCall Air, which helps contractors sell at home and has generated $1.5 billion in customer sales.
Q: What's the outlook for transitioning from 410A to A2L in your inventory? A: Paul Johnston stated that they aim to run down 410A inventory by the beginning of the second quarter and be fully engaged with A2L. Aaron Nahmad added that they plan to be through selling 410A inventory by the end of 2025, leveraging Watsco's scale and data capabilities.
Q: How are you helping customers articulate the benefits of A2L products to end users? A: Paul Johnston mentioned extensive training for customers to handle the new refrigerant, which has slight flammability. Gross profit dollars are expected to increase, but the gross profit percentage may not rise significantly initially. Barry Logan highlighted the digital platform's role in smoothing the transition and enhancing customer experience.
Q: Can you discuss the M&A environment and Watsco's ability to pursue acquisitions? A: Barry Logan noted that there are still many family-owned businesses in the industry, and Watsco maintains strong relationships with them. The stability of recent years has clarified valuations, and while private equity remains interested, Watsco is well-positioned to invest when opportunities arise.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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