Release Date: February 21, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Cathy, can you give us a sense of the magnitude of the change in the loss pick for the current accident year and why now? What do you see in the marketplace that motivates you to increase the loss pay? A: Our current accident year loss in LAE ratio is determined annually by our actuaries, considering the pricing environment, growth prospects, trends in frequency and severity, and any initiatives we might implement. We have maintained a prudent reserving philosophy, and the competitive rate environment led us to select a 2024 accident year loss in LAE ratio of 64%, slightly higher than 2023's 63.3%. We expect to increase this ratio in 2025 due to higher actuarial trend selections and the ongoing competitive rate environment.
Q: Is the 70 basis point uptick in 2024 a good starting point to think about 2025? A: We don't provide specific guidance, but we expect our decrease in the expense ratio to offset and mitigate the impact of the increase in the loss in LAE ratio. The offset is expected to be meaningful.
Q: What trends are driving the higher actuarial trend selection? A: Our claim frequency has continued to trend downward, and we do not expect that to change. Claim severity values have held steady, driven by lower medical severity. Indemnity severity trends with wage inflation, and medical inflation remains mild. The pressure comes from a more conservative approach and industry trends, with the accident year loss and LAE ratio picks for 2023 being 69, while we have been below the industry for years.
Q: How should we think about your expansion in appetite going into 2025? A: We will continue to expand our appetite, accelerating our efforts due to its success. This segment operates at a loss in LAE ratio similar to or better than our traditional target classes, contributing to growth. In Q4, appetite expansion classes generated $35 million or 20% of new renewal premium. We are also focusing on increasing digital partnerships for submissions, quotes, and binds.
Q: It looks like you transitioned investments into mortgage-backed securities during the quarter. What was the thought process? A: We increased our letter of credit by $100 million through the Federal Home Loan Bank to satisfy deposit requirements in California, allowing us to liberate lower-yielding assets. We sold these, recognizing a small realized loss, and invested in residential mortgage-backed securities yielding near 6%, significantly higher than previous yields. This will uplift our net investment income for next year.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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