Release Date: February 20, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the demand environment and how that's evolving for both large pharma and biotech customers? Also, should we view the strength in Phase I as a leading indicator for future phases? A: Stephen Cutler, CEO: The demand environment for both large pharma and biotech is solid, with RFP numbers stable in large pharma and up in biotech. While early phase business shows growth, translating this into Phase II and III is not guaranteed. There's a loose correlation between Phase I success and subsequent phases, particularly in biotech.
Q: Are you feeling any different about the demand environment today compared to a month ago? How do you view the wide earnings range provided? A: Stephen Cutler, CEO: The situation hasn't changed much since last month. We provided a wide range due to market volatility. There are opportunities that could lead to the upper end of the range, but risks could push us to the lower end. We reaffirm our guidance and will narrow the range as the year progresses.
Q: Can you elaborate on the 4Q bookings strength and its implications for Q1? A: Stephen Cutler, CEO: The strength in Q4 bookings was primarily in the biotech segment, with significant full-service opportunities secured. Large pharma was more muted. The gross bookings were offset by elevated cancellations, mainly in large pharma. We see green shoots in biotech, which could lead to growth in 2025 and 2026.
Q: Can you talk about pricing trends in biotech and large pharma, and whether you're gaining market share in biotech? A: Stephen Cutler, CEO: It's early to claim market share gains in biotech, but we're making progress. Pricing remains competitive, with biotech focusing on certainty and clarity rather than just price. In large pharma, competition on price occurs at periodic refresh points rather than individual studies.
Q: How are you managing costs in the current volatile environment, and what are the trade-offs between cost-cutting and growth? A: Stephen Cutler, CEO: We are aligning our cost base with the work in our backlog, focusing on maintaining margins and achieving EPS targets. Barry Balfe, COO, adds that cost control is ongoing, and investments are made where growth opportunities exist.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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