Release Date: March 04, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Regarding the Nova integration, how do you approach larger transactions like Nova, and what are your 2025 expectations regarding integration costs? A: Keith Newton, CEO: We've had several large transactions over the years and have learned to integrate them well. The infrastructure to support Nova's centers is already in place, which should facilitate a smooth integration. Matthew DiCanio, CFO: We've been planning this integration for over six months and will follow a proven playbook similar to past integrations like US HealthWorks.
Q: Can you elaborate on your deleveraging pathway following the Nova acquisition? A: Matthew DiCanio, CFO: We were at 3.9 times leverage at the IPO and reduced it to 3.46 times by the end of 2024. Post-Nova, we're back at 3.9 times and aim to reach 3.5 times by year-end 2025, targeting roughly 3 times within 18 to 24 months through cash flow generation and EBITDA growth. Keith Newton, CEO: Cash flow typically accelerates in the second half of the year due to business seasonality.
Q: Are there any particular regions you're targeting for your next major acquisition? A: Keith Newton, CEO: We cast a wide net and are interested in opportunities across various regions. Matthew DiCanio, CFO: We're looking to grow our occupational health centers nationwide and expand our onsite portfolio.
Q: How do you assess the exposure of your employer clients to tariffs, and do you see any impacts on volumes or employment? A: Keith Newton, CEO: Currently, we don't see tariffs as a significant headwind for our business, although there's general uncertainty around them.
Q: Can you provide more color on the economic drivers of your business and how they relate to your 2025 guidance? A: Keith Newton, CEO: Our guidance is based on a combination of factors, including improved employer services trends and a more stable economic environment. Early 2025 trends in employer services have been positive compared to previous years.
Q: What are your expectations for cost of services, G&A, and TSA costs in 2025? A: Matthew DiCanio, CFO: We expect stable costs for both cost of services and G&A. The TSA costs with Select Medical will be less in 2025, with the remainder in 2026.
Q: How much improvement are you expecting in the employer services business, and what is the exit rate embedded in your guidance? A: Matthew DiCanio, CFO: We expect improving trends in employer services, moving from negative growth to flat and then slightly positive growth later in the year.
Q: Can you discuss rate updates for workers' comp and employer services, excluding Florida? A: Matthew DiCanio, CFO: Rate increases are slightly elevated due to inflation, with both workers' comp and employer services expected to have a strong year in 2025, even excluding Florida's outsized rate increase.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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