Release Date: March 21, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What is Lennar's view on the normalized operating margin and the path to achieve it? A: Stuart Miller, Executive Chairman and Co-CEO, explained that Lennar is focused on improving efficiencies across all business elements, especially after the Millrose spin-off. The current high level of incentives is temporary, and the company expects to achieve a significantly higher operating margin once these incentives normalize. Diane Bessette, CFO, added that historically, SG&A was around 7% and corporate G&A around 1.5%, suggesting room for improvement from current levels.
Q: How does Lennar determine its sales pace, and what if current demand levels are the new normal? A: Stuart Miller stated that Lennar assesses demand at the community level and believes the current market is undersupplied due to years of underproduction. The company is prepared to adjust its production levels quickly if necessary, typically within a quarter or two, as market conditions evolve.
Q: Is Lennar underwriting new land acquisitions to current incentive levels, and can margins improve without incentives returning to historical levels? A: Stuart Miller confirmed that Lennar is strategically turning over land inventory to align with current market conditions. Fred Rothman, COO, added that the company is patient and strategic in land acquisitions, underwriting them to current incentive levels while aiming for higher margins as land costs adjust.
Q: How does Lennar respond to concerns about increased cyclicality in margins due to its even flow strategy? A: Stuart Miller emphasized that Lennar's strategy is to work through assets at lower margins rather than walking away from deposits. The company believes that maintaining production levels and turning land into cash is more beneficial in the long run, even in a challenging market.
Q: What is the impact of the Millrose transaction on Lennar's cash flow and leverage strategy? A: Stuart Miller noted that the Millrose transaction is part of Lennar's transition to an asset-light model, which will eventually lead to cash generation approximately equal to earnings. Diane Bessette highlighted that 2025 is a transition year, but the asset-light model is expected to enhance shareholder returns through increased cash flow and stock buybacks.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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