Release Date: March 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Could you provide some color on the key swing factors in your assumptions between the high and low end of your guidance range? Does the high end assume a full draw in deployment of the $50 million remaining on the revolver? A: The guidance range is not dependent on the $50 million additional draw. Key drivers include origination and integration of asset management into the balance sheet. There is significant upside potential as we continue to integrate businesses and raise more capital through our acquisitions and strategies. The additional $50 million would be incremental.
Q: How have the direct channel metrics been tracking since you resumed advertising after the election? A: We did not pause total advertising; we shifted it to non-swing states. The campaign continues to be successful, with positive returns on advertising spend. It has also increased awareness among financial advisors and agents, leading to more inquiries and interest.
Q: How much of the capital raised in the November equity and December debt offerings was deployed in Q4 and Q1 to date? When do you expect to be fully deployed? A: A significant amount was deployed by the end of 2024, with a strong cash position of around $131 million. We are well-positioned for Q1, deploying capital at or better than previous quarters. We do not anticipate needing additional equity raises in 2025.
Q: Can you discuss your strategy of holding policies on the balance sheet? Are there any changes in holding duration or strategy? A: We typically target two turns per year, with an average holding period of 4 to 6 months. The balance sheet amount will hover around $370 to $450 million as we replace sold policies with new ones. This strategy maximizes the return on invested capital.
Q: Are you seeing any change in behavior from individuals settling life insurance policies due to the current economic environment? A: Volatile markets can increase origination interest as individuals seek liquidity. We also see increased interest from investors seeking alternative assets. Our position is strong, with interest from both consumers and investors in this market environment.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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