Release Date: March 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you clarify if the 10-K filing is expected by Monday and if there are any new restatements since the last report? A: Yes, the 10-K is expected to be filed by Monday. The restatements refer to the 2023 restatement, with no new restatements this year. - Cecilia Welch, CFO
Q: What caused the revenue expectations for 2024 to not meet the flat or growth expectations compared to 2023? A: The transition and exit from the Swivel Secure business resulted in a revenue shortfall of about $800,000 to $900,000 for 2024. Some opportunities took longer to convert to BIO-key, causing delays into the first quarter of 2025. However, this transition significantly improved gross margins. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: Is the transition away from Swivel Secure contracts complete, and are there any headwinds entering 2025? A: The transition is completely done. We are now focusing on BIO-key products, which has resulted in significant contracts, including a recent one with a European defense agency. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: How is the first quarter of 2025 looking compared to the fourth quarter of 2024? A: While the first quarter is not closed yet, we expect growth in 2025 with improved profitability and a more aggressive path to cash flow breakeven. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: Are there expectations for growth in hardware and services revenue segments in 2025? A: Yes, we expect growth in both hardware and services. Biometrics are increasingly part of contracts, leading to hardware sales, and services revenue is expected to grow through professional services and support. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: Can you provide details on the $910,000 contract secured in the fourth quarter? A: A significant portion of that contract will be recognized in Q1 2025. It was an upgrade for a financial services customer, contributing to recurring revenue. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: Is there any update on the long-stalled BIO-key contracts in Nigeria? A: The World Bank is attempting to accelerate the enrollment of citizens in Nigeria, which could lead to sales of hardware and software. We are monitoring the situation closely. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
Q: What is the focus of the increased R&D spending? A: R&D is focused on integrations with larger partners, APIs, and mobile authentication, particularly in biometrics, to stay on the leading edge. - Michael DePasquale, CEO
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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