Release Date: January 22, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Russ, could you elaborate on the better-than-expected credit performance in the fourth quarter and how you see losses progressing? Could we exit the year below a 2% seasonally adjusted loss rate? A: Russell Hutchinson, CFO: Our credit outlook has been choppy, but we saw favorable trends in the fourth quarter, including better flow to loss and severity. While we saw improvement, the seasonally adjusted annualized loss rate was still north of 2%. For 2025, we've guided a range of 2% to 2.25% for net charge-offs, considering elevated delinquencies and stable used car values. If macro conditions remain favorable, we could see losses at the lower end of the range.
Q: Post the sale of the card business, you mentioned a 40 basis point capital increase. Can you provide more color on potential uses for this capital and your outlook on NIM? A: Russell Hutchinson, CFO: Our priority is investing in core businesses with accretive risk-adjusted returns. We may also restructure the securities portfolio and eventually return capital through share repurchases. The card sale impacts NIM by about 15 basis points this year, but we expect high 3% NIM to support mid-teens ROTCE. A 4% NIM is not required but remains possible.
Q: How much of the originated yield drop is due to consumer selection versus competition? A: Russell Hutchinson, CFO: The 90 basis point drop in originated yield from Q3 to Q4 was due to benchmark rates and mix, with S-Tier increasing from 43% to 49%. We expect the mix to normalize, and our asset betas are favorable compared to expectations.
Q: Could you discuss the impact of unwinding curtailment actions on originated yield and the decision behind it? A: Russell Hutchinson, CFO: We expect unwinding curtailment to offset benchmark rate impacts, maintaining yields in the high 9s to 10%. Curtailment adjustments will be gradual, based on continuous evaluation of credit performance. It's not a one-time process but involves ongoing tweaks to underwriting and application processing.
Q: Can you provide more detail on the mitigation actions that led to low flow-through rates and their future impact? A: Russell Hutchinson, CFO: We've improved repossession timing, communication strategies, and modifications/extensions. These actions have led to better outcomes, keeping borrowers in their cars longer and improving collections. We monitor recidivism and stick rates to ensure we're not just delaying issues.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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