Release Date: January 28, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How did consumable orders develop in Q4, and do they reflect any catch-up from low inventory levels? A: Joachim Kreuzburg, CEO: The book-to-bill ratio for bioprocessing was close to 1.2 in Q4, with consumables above that. We don't have indications that customers ran their inventory levels too low, so we don't expect volatility from catch-up orders. Order levels were low in previous quarters, picking up slightly in Q3, and the year-on-year order growth has been encouraging.
Q: Can you provide insights into the typical seasonality of orders and the status of your South Korea expansion? A: Joachim Kreuzburg, CEO: Seasonality is difficult to pinpoint as there has always been some fluctuation. Q4 might be slightly stronger on average, but it's not a clear pattern. Regarding South Korea, we are on track with our facility in Songdo, expecting to start qualification in 2026, which will enhance our capacity in the region.
Q: Why wouldn't a 12.7% order intake increase translate to double-digit sales growth in 2025 for bioprocessing? A: Joachim Kreuzburg, CEO: While the order intake growth is healthy, we should consider the low order levels in 2023. We maintain a cautious outlook and do not recommend speculating on double-digit growth rates at this point.
Q: What are the potential drivers of upside and downside to the 2025 sales guidance? A: Joachim Kreuzburg, CEO: Upside and downside variables include the timing of customer projects, approvals, and manufacturing campaigns. The destocking impact should be minimal, but the biotech funding environment and China's market conditions could introduce some uncertainty.
Q: Can you confirm the mix of equipment versus consumables and its impact on future growth? A: Rene Faber, Head of Bioprocess Solutions Division: Currently, the mix is about 75% consumables and 25% equipment. We are moving towards a higher recurring revenue portion, potentially reaching 80-20. Equipment sales are important as they often lead to consumable sales.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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