Release Date: February 05, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the sequential reduction in demand for non-HBM DRAM probe cards? A: Michael Slessor, CEO: The largest factor in the sequential decline from Q4 to Q1 is the reduction in non-HBM DRAM probe cards, primarily due to the recent U.S. export controls affecting shipments to China. We have adjusted our outlook for DRAM probe card revenue into China to zero for Q1 and expect this to persist unless there are significant changes. Non-HBM DRAM outside China continues to operate at cyclical lows, around $20 million per quarter, with limited recovery expected in the near term.
Q: How does volume impact the business, especially as we transition from 2024 to 2025? A: Michael Slessor, CEO: While new design releases drive probe card demand, the volume of these designs is crucial. The number of probe cards sold depends on the ramp volume, which is currently low due to weak markets like PC and mobile. However, we are optimistic about 2025 due to transitions like HBM4, which are expected to drive growth.
Q: What is the outlook for the foundry and logic business in 2025? A: Michael Slessor, CEO: We expect a return to approximately $100 million per quarter in foundry and logic, driven by a potential PC refresh cycle and higher unit volumes of new designs. Additionally, new customer qualifications should contribute to revenue growth and diversify our customer base.
Q: Can you elaborate on the strategic rationale behind the FICT acquisition? A: Michael Slessor, CEO: The acquisition aims to enhance our influence over FICT's product roadmap, aligning it with our needs for high-performance compute. This partnership allows us to accelerate innovation without the financial and execution risks of a full acquisition, ensuring we meet the demands of advanced packaging.
Q: What are the growth prospects for the Systems segment, particularly in silicon photonics and quantum computing? A: Michael Slessor, CEO: We are excited about the transition of silicon photonics and co-packaged optics to pilot production, expected to ramp in the second half of 2025. Quantum computing is also a focus, with investments aimed at building a leadership position in test and measurement for this emerging industry.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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