Release Date: February 11, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How does Cincinnati Financial view the reinsurance market following the California wildfires, and what are the expectations for Cincinnati Re in 2025? A: Stephen Spray, President and CEO, noted that the reinsurance market has shown underwriting profit, which is healthy for the industry. Cincinnati Financial values long-term relationships with reinsurers and expects to pay all losses plus the reinsurer's margin over time. Cincinnati Re plans to stay the course, as their losses from the California wildfires were within expectations, and they will proceed with their 2025 plan unchanged.
Q: Can you provide more details on the umbrella exposure and any concerns regarding claims in the excess layers? A: Stephen Spray explained that umbrella exposure, both commercial and personal, is a severity line with inherent volatility. The company examines large losses for trends but does not see any concerning trends in their commercial or personal lines umbrella books.
Q: What is the estimated financial impact of the California wildfires, and how does it affect Cincinnati Financial's reinsurance program? A: Stephen Spray stated that the estimated net pretax catastrophe losses are between $450 million to $525 million. The company is not ready to provide a gross loss number due to ongoing assessments. Cincinnati Financial has reinstated applicable layers of their primary property catastrophe reinsurance treaty coverage.
Q: How is Cincinnati Financial addressing the challenging insurance market in California, especially regarding rate adjustments for fire risk? A: Stephen Spray mentioned that 77% of their homeowner premiums in California are on a non-admitted basis. The company is focused on supporting agents and policyholders and will conduct a thorough review to determine any strategic changes needed post-catastrophe.
Q: What are the current trends in commercial lines pricing, and how does Cincinnati Financial approach multi-year policies? A: Stephen Spray noted that commercial property, general liability, and auto are seeing high single-digit rate increases, while work comp is down in the mid-single digits. The company uses pricing tools for risk segmentation and expects rate increases to continue earning into the book throughout 2025.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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