Waste Connections Inc (WCN) Q4 2024 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong Revenue Growth Amid ...

GuruFocus.com
14 Feb
  • Q4 2024 Revenue: $2.26 billion, up 11% year-over-year.
  • Full Year 2024 Revenue: $8.92 billion, up 11.2% year-over-year.
  • Q4 2024 Adjusted EBITDA: $732 million, 32.4% of revenue.
  • Full Year 2024 Adjusted EBITDA: $2.902 billion, up 15% year-over-year, with a margin of 32.5%.
  • Adjusted Free Cash Flow 2024: $1.218 billion, exceeding expectations.
  • Acquisition Revenue Contribution 2024: $529 million for the full year.
  • Core Pricing Q4 2024: 6.7%.
  • Solid Waste Core Pricing 2024: 7.1%.
  • Chiquita Canyon Landfill Closure Costs: $116.1 million write-down and $480.8 million in closure and post-closure liabilities.
  • 2025 Revenue Outlook: $9.45 billion to $9.6 billion.
  • 2025 Adjusted EBITDA Outlook: $3.12 billion to $3.2 billion, with a margin of 33% to 33.3%.
  • 2025 Adjusted Free Cash Flow Outlook: $1.3 billion to $1.35 billion.
  • Q1 2025 Revenue Outlook: $2.2 billion to $2.225 billion.
  • Q1 2025 Adjusted EBITDA Outlook: $700 million to $710 million, 31.8% to 31.9% of revenue.
  • Warning! GuruFocus has detected 5 Warning Signs with HBI.

Release Date: February 13, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Waste Connections Inc (NYSE:WCN) achieved double-digit growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA for Q4 2024.
  • The company successfully integrated acquisitions totaling approximately $750 million in annualized revenue in 2024.
  • Employee turnover reached multiyear lows, improving operational execution and contributing to margin expansion.
  • Price-led organic solid waste growth and improving commodities are expected to position the company at the high end of its financial outlook for 2025.
  • The company has a robust acquisition pipeline, with over $75 million in annualized revenue already closed or signed for 2025.

Negative Points

  • The closure of the Chiquita Canyon landfill resulted in significant financial impacts, including a $116.1 million write-down and $480.8 million in closure liabilities.
  • Solid waste volumes in Q4 2024 were down 2.7%, reflecting a focus on quality of revenue and shedding unprofitable contracts.
  • The company faces headwinds from declining commodity values, RINs, and FX rates, impacting margins.
  • Incremental costs associated with the Chiquita Canyon ETLF event exceeded expectations, with significant outlays projected for 2025.
  • Despite strong acquisition activity, the company anticipates continued volume declines due to strategic shedding and economic conditions.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Can you clarify the expected green CapEx spending for 2025 and its impact on cash flow? A: Mary Anne Whitney, CFO: Yes, we expect green CapEx to be around $125 million at the midpoint in 2025, up from $60 million in 2024. This spending will largely conclude by 2026, with potential benefits from tax credits reducing the net impact.

Q: What is the expected timeline for the financial impact of the Chiquita Canyon landfill closure? A: Ronald Mittelstaedt, CEO: We spent $224 million in 2024 on Chiquita Canyon, which will decrease to around $125 million in 2025 and further reduce by 2026. By 2027, costs should be minimal, around $0 to $20 million.

Q: How do you view the potential for volume growth in 2026 and beyond? A: Ronald Mittelstaedt, CEO: Volume growth could turn positive in 2026, but it depends on economic conditions and our strategic shedding of unprofitable contracts. We focus on margin over volume, with a conscious trade-off between price and volume.

Q: How is employee retention in acquired businesses, given the high M&A activity? A: Ronald Mittelstaedt, CEO: Employee turnover is higher in acquired companies, often reaching 30-35% initially due to our rigorous safety standards. However, our core company turnover is much lower, indicating strong retention overall.

Q: What is the outlook for price trends in 2025? A: Mary Anne Whitney, CFO: We expect core pricing to be around 6% in 2025, with CPI-linked markets contributing about 4% and competitive markets around 7-7.5%. Pricing will likely start higher and decrease throughout the year.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

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