Release Date: February 13, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the volume outlook for 2025, which you mentioned would be flat? A: Joel Ackerman, CFO, explained that there is a range associated with volume due to variability in admissions, mortality, and mistreatment rates. The 2024 volume was up 50 basis points, but for 2025, the midpoint of the range is flat due to factors like the leap year effect in 2024 and disruptions from Hurricane Helene affecting peritoneal dialysis (PD) supply.
Q: Why is there a wide range of $0 to $50 million for the operating income impact from the inclusion of oral drugs in the bundle? A: Javier Rodriguez, CEO, noted that the range is due to uncertainties in mix, volume, and adherence of phosphate binders, which are now included in the dialysis benefit. The wide range reflects the newness of this transition and the variability in patient adherence and prescription pickup.
Q: How are patient treatment costs expected to change in 2025, excluding the impact of phosphate binders? A: Joel Ackerman, CFO, stated that excluding phosphate binders, patient care costs are expected to grow by about 3.75%, driven equally by labor and other costs. The inclusion of phosphate binders adds an additional 2.75% to the growth rate.
Q: Can you comment on the impact of SGLT2 inhibitors on treatment volumes and new patient starts? A: Javier Rodriguez, CEO, mentioned that the impact of SGLT2 inhibitors on their patient population is considered low. The company attributes any changes in new patient starts more to COVID-related mortality in CKD patients rather than these medications.
Q: What is the outlook for Integrated Kidney Care (IKC) in 2025, and when do you expect it to break even? A: Javier Rodriguez, CEO, indicated that IKC is expected to be flat in 2025, with a breakeven target by 2026. The company remains focused on driving margin rather than volume growth, and the business is performing in line with their long-term model.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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