Release Date: February 12, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Could you talk about how you're thinking about the cadence for gross margins this year with higher incentives and your Q1 gross margin guide in the high 23% range? A: Curt Vanhyfte, CFO: For the first quarter, we're guiding to the high 23% range. We expect margins to moderate over the course of the year due to a step-up in rates and lot cost inflation. The exit rate from Q4 is similar to what we expect, given rates are generally in the same place.
Q: What are you assuming around material costs with the potential impact of tariffs? A: Curt Vanhyfte, CFO: The cost environment was stable until recent tariff discussions. If tariffs on steel are implemented, the impact would be minimal, around $1,200 per lot, affecting us in the back half of the year. Other tariffs could impact costs by $4,000 to $5,000 per house, likely affecting the fourth quarter. These are manageable within our guidance.
Q: Can you provide insight into your pricing strategy, given the market's increase in incentives? A: Sheryl Palmer, CEO: In Q4, we saw pricing power in about 50% of our communities. We implemented a national price increase in January. While January started slow, we've seen a pickup since mid-January. Pricing opportunities are community-specific, and we expect a small increase in incentives compared to Q4.
Q: How are you approaching SG&A guidance, given the expectation for volume growth and a competitive backdrop? A: Sheryl Palmer, CEO: We're seeing a reduction in broker commissions, with a 10% year-over-year decrease in Q4. Curt Vanhyfte, CFO: With increased closings and revenue growth, we're achieving SG&A leverage. Our teams focus on running an efficient business, contributing to this leverage.
Q: What is driving your strong performance in the central region, particularly in Texas? A: Sheryl Palmer, CEO: Performance is generally strong across the board. Austin saw a 20% sales increase and 30% absorption increase. Houston and Dallas also showed significant growth. Erik Heuser, COO: Our strategic submarket positioning results in lower resale home supply in our operating areas, aiding performance.
Q: Can you elaborate on the use of incentives and rate buydowns within your portfolio? A: Sheryl Palmer, CEO: Incentives are primarily used in first-time buyer communities due to affordability challenges. Our personalized approach helps manage costs. Erik Heuser, COO: Land supply and competition are highest in first-time buyer markets, creating pressure. Our diverse portfolio helps mitigate this.
Q: Have you seen any changes in the land market, such as willingness to renegotiate option contracts? A: Erik Heuser, COO: Demand for land decreased slightly in Q3 and Q4, providing more flexibility in deal structures. We're focusing on efficient deal structures to increase our controlled lot percentage and enhance returns.
Q: How are you managing land banking costs, and what is the trade-off between gross margin impact and return on equity? A: Erik Heuser, COO: Land banking demand is strong, and costs have decreased. Our last facility had a 197 basis point gross margin impact for a 750 basis point return impact, a 3.8x trade-off. We use various tools to manage exposure and increase control.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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