Release Date: February 13, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How should we think about base spread income in the first half of 2025 versus the second half, considering the Fed's rate cuts? A: Kevin Hogan, President and CEO, explained that while short-term headwinds from rate cuts will affect spread income, the business conditions remain strong. The impact of rate cuts generally earns in over two quarters, and once the floater reset cycle is complete, spread income is expected to grow due to supportive new business conditions and positive net flows in the general account.
Q: What is the baseline EPS we should use for the 10% to 15% growth target? A: Elias Habayeb, CFO, advised using the reported EPS as the baseline. While 2025 might see growth on the lighter end of the 10% to 15% range due to the Fed's actions, the company is confident in its ability to grow EPS through organic growth, balance sheet optimization, expense management, and capital management.
Q: Can you discuss the expected growth in cash flow from subsidiary dividends in 2025? A: Elias Habayeb highlighted that diversified revenue sources and expense management contribute to stable cash flow generation. The Bermuda strategy provides financial flexibility, supporting capital management objectives and business growth, leading to increased dividends from insurance companies.
Q: What are your expectations for surrender rates in Individual Retirement for 2025? A: Kevin Hogan noted that surrender rates are influenced by market interest rates and credit spreads. While the volume of products exiting surrender charge protection will increase, the surrender rates will reflect market conditions. The current environment supports attractive margins, and the company expects continued growth in general accounts and spread income.
Q: Can you provide more details on the potential for further expense efficiencies? A: Kevin Hogan mentioned that Corebridge Forward's remaining $50 million in savings will earn in throughout the year. The focus is on digitization and automation in data, actuarial, and finance processes to reduce unit costs over time, although no specific targets were announced.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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