Release Date: February 19, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What needs to happen to turn around North American volume trends, and how long do you expect this to take? A: Stephan Gratziani, President, explained that rebuilding the distributor base and supervisor base is crucial. After 14 quarters of decline, they finally saw growth in the active supervisor base, following three quarters of new distributor growth. It's a gradual process, but they are positive about the progress and believe the U.S. is on track for improvement.
Q: Regarding debt repayment, is the plan to repay the 2025 maturity when it comes due in September, and is that the only debt repayment targeted for 2025? A: John DeSimone, CFO, confirmed that they plan to repay the 2025 notes due in September. The revolving credit facility is currently undrawn, and they anticipate drawing it slightly to help pay down the 2025 notes. There is potential to pay down the revolver post-2025 repayment, allowing for further debt reduction.
Q: Can you discuss the constant currency sales guidance range for 2025 of 1% to 7% and what factors could lead to the high or low end of this range? A: John DeSimone, CFO, noted that the range is not unusually wide given the current environment. Upside potential exists in China and the U.S., while downside risks are in markets not performing as expected in 2024. Despite the range, they are projecting positive constant currency net sales growth in 2025.
Q: What is happening in China, and how much of the decline is due to macro factors versus company control? A: Stephan Gratziani, President, explained that a strategic shift towards a customer-focused model, including a new customer loyalty program, has been implemented. While the transition was weaker than expected, they are seeing positive results in building a stronger customer base. Efforts continue to optimize growth in China.
Q: How do you view the continued declines in preferred customers in North America, and what does it indicate about the business model? A: Stephan Gratziani, President, acknowledged the shift towards a food service transactional business and emphasized the need to balance this with transformational product results. Efforts are focused on supporting clubs to enhance customer value and increase conversion rates to preferred customers.
Q: With FX being a significant drag on EBITDA, how do you consider the underlying economics and potential supply chain adjustments? A: John DeSimone, CFO, stated that most FX impact is from translation rather than transaction. While local production opportunities are limited, price adjustments in response to local inflationary changes are a more viable strategy to mitigate currency impacts.
Q: Is there an impact from U.S. immigration policies on the distributor base? A: Stephan Gratziani, President, mentioned that while headlines are prevalent, it's too early to determine any real impact on the distributor base from immigration policies.
Q: What is driving the strong distributor growth in Latin America, and can these changes be replicated in other markets? A: Stephan Gratziani, President, attributed the growth to market-specific optimizations and support for distributors. John DeSimone, CFO, added that tailoring incentive programs to individual markets has been successful and could be applied to other regions.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
This article first appeared on GuruFocus.Disclaimer: Investing carries risk. This is not financial advice. The above content should not be regarded as an offer, recommendation, or solicitation on acquiring or disposing of any financial products, any associated discussions, comments, or posts by author or other users should not be considered as such either. It is solely for general information purpose only, which does not consider your own investment objectives, financial situations or needs. TTM assumes no responsibility or warranty for the accuracy and completeness of the information, investors should do their own research and may seek professional advice before investing.