Release Date: February 19, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss where you see the current economic return of the portfolio? Does that match the EAD this quarter? And with the swaps rolling off, does that impact the DE? A: (Michael Roper, CFO) The economic return aligns with the DE ROE, which is in the low-teens. The economic earnings power is around 10%. Regarding swaps, they contributed $0.09 to DE in Q4 and are expected to contribute $0.02 in Q1 before rolling off. The DE will decline by the difference between these amounts, but the economic return remains unaffected.
Q: What was behind the increase in delinquencies for single-family and multifamily transitional loans? A: (Bryan Wulfsohn, President & CIO) Delinquencies are higher in these portfolios due to their inherent riskiness. These loans, such as fix and flip or bridge value-add projects, carry additional risk. The short-term nature of these loans can lead to delinquencies if projects aren't completed or sold on time.
Q: What's your outlook for Lima One for the rest of the year, and what product types are you focused on? A: (Bryan Wulfsohn, President & CIO) Single-family transitional and term rental loans remain the focus. We are expanding into the wholesale channel to grow rental loan originations. We expect growth in 2025, with origination potentially reaching around $1.5 billion.
Q: Can you share the level of unfunded commitments in the Lima One portfolio, and when might these commitments be called up? A: (Michael Roper, CFO) The unfunded commitments are approximately $600 million, expected to be funded over the next year. Most loans are in revolving securitizations, which self-fund through paydowns.
Q: What is the return on the Agency MBS that you are putting on? A: (Bryan Wulfsohn, President & CIO) We see hedge returns in the mid-teens for the Agency MBS.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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