Release Date: February 21, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you explain the concept of a PIK non-accrual and how it differs from a regular non-accrual? A: Elizabeth Murray, CFO, explained that a PIK non-accrual occurs when the investment team determines that the full value, including PIK, cannot be recovered, but the cash portion can. The investment was initially performing above expectations, but adjustments were made to reflect realistic recovery expectations.
Q: What factors contributed to the CSA marks, and how much was interest rate or timing related versus fundamental? A: Matthew Freund, President, noted that the CSA marks were primarily influenced by the valuation mark on Black Angus Steakhouse. While there were impacts from interest rates and timing, the significant change was due to this specific position.
Q: How do you plan to manage portfolio rotation in 2025 given market uncertainties? A: Bryan High, Co-Portfolio Manager, stated that the focus will be on rotating out non-Barings names and non-income producing assets to maximize value. Despite market uncertainties, they have a decent pipeline of new opportunities and expect to continue originating consistent with their strategy.
Q: How is the portfolio exposed to regulatory uncertainties and tariffs? A: Matthew Freund explained that 60% to 75% of the portfolio is expected to be unimpacted by regulatory uncertainties. The team is proactively analyzing the portfolio, and they are optimistic that well-managed businesses will adapt to changes.
Q: Given the uncertainty and lack of deal proposals, how do you expect fee and other income to perform in 2025? A: Matthew Freund anticipates fee and other income to be flat, with potential increases in amendment and extension fees offsetting any decreases in OID acceleration. The expectation is based on the broader maturity dynamics within the portfolio.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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