Release Date: February 20, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

• Genesis Energy Ltd (ASX:GNE) reported a 7% increase in EBITDAF to $217 million, demonstrating strong financial performance despite volatile market conditions.
• The company successfully generated 30% more electricity than planned during winter 2024, showcasing its operational resilience.
• Genesis Energy Ltd (ASX:GNE) made significant progress in its renewable project pipeline, including the Laurriton Solar Farm and securing sites for additional solar projects.
• The company's retail operating model transformation led to a reduction of approximately 200 full-time roles, resulting in cost savings while maintaining high customer satisfaction.
• Genesis Energy Ltd (ASX:GNE) maintained its investment-grade credit rating of TriBB+ with a stable outlook, reflecting strong financial management.

Negative Points

• The company faced a significant draw on cash due to the need to replenish its coal stockpile, impacting free cash flow.
• Genesis Energy Ltd (ASX:GNE) had to contract expensive gas to address low hydrology and winter wind drought, leading to increased costs.
• The market applies a lower earnings multiple to Genesis's lakes compared to other generators, which the company finds unjustified.
• There is uncertainty in the gas market, with a lack of confidence in new supply, prompting a strategic pivot towards renewable generation.
• The company acknowledges that the current market is not well-suited for providing an investment-grade return on thermal generation, posing a challenge for future profitability.

Q & A Highlights

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Q: Can you provide clarity on the 105 to 160 million uplift in EBITDA and what portion of that is expected to be achieved in FY25? A: The uplift is incremental for FY28, with a ramp-up varying by initiative. The starting point for the uplift is 460 million, which is the guidance for this year. (Malcolm Johns, CEO)

Q: Is the CapEx guidance of 1.1 billion until 2030 still valid? A: Yes, the 1.1 billion CapEx guidance holds, but it is subject to financial settings. We will consider different capital structures for optimal balance between earnings uplift and capital deployment. (Julie Amy, CFO)

Q: What is the current view on gas costs, particularly in relation to long-term contracts? A: We have 2 terawatt hours of base load gas, with 1 terawatt hour from equity gas and the rest from the market. The cost will reflect market conditions going forward. (Malcolm Johns, CEO)

Q: Can you provide more details on the biomass project and its cost implications? A: We are targeting cost parity with coal, including carbon costs. The largest biomass facility currently produces at a cost above coal, but we aim for parity as technology advances. (Malcolm Johns, CEO)

Q: What are the plans for hydro flexibility and its role in the portfolio? A: We are evaluating the best use of hydro flexibility, particularly in the Tongariro power scheme, to determine its role in flexibility products versus baseload generation. (Malcolm Johns, CEO)

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.