Release Date: February 20, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss your view of the core customer and how you're managing risk heading into 2025? A: Mitchell Fadel, CEO, explained that while both Acima and Rent-A-Center had to tighten underwriting, Acima benefited from trade-down, which helped offset tightening at the bottom. Rent-A-Center, however, did not benefit as directly from trade-down, resulting in flat same-store sales in Q4. Overall, the core customer remains under pressure, but trade-down is helping mitigate this.
Q: What are the strategic priorities for improving margins at Acima in 2025? A: Fahmi Karam, CFO, stated that gross profit is expected to be relatively flat year-over-year, with improvements anticipated in loss rates and operating leverage on expenses. The focus will be on maintaining underwriting discipline and achieving scale efficiencies.
Q: How is the integration of Bridget progressing, and what are the plans for cross-selling? A: Fahmi Karam noted that the integration is in early stages, with a focus on cross-marketing due to customer overlap. The underwriting teams are exploring ways to leverage Bridget's cash flow underwriting, which is expected to enhance understanding of consumer payment behavior.
Q: Can you provide an update on the CFPB lawsuits and their potential impact? A: Mitchell Fadel mentioned that while there is uncertainty at the CFPB, Upbound feels confident about its position in the lawsuits. A similar lawsuit against a competitor was largely dismissed, which is seen as a positive indicator for Upbound's case.
Q: How is the Acima marketplace performing, and what are the growth expectations? A: Fahmi Karam reported that the Acima marketplace grew by 60% in Q4, albeit from a small base. It currently contributes a low single-digit percentage to GMV, with expectations to reach mid-single digits in 2025 and potentially double digits in the coming years.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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