Release Date: February 21, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you clarify the confusion in the market regarding the inclusion of Concentra in the financials and the expected growth metrics for 2025? A: Martin Jackson, Senior Executive Vice President of Strategic Finance and Operations, explained that there is confusion because some have not removed Concentra from consensus. For 2025, the expected revenue growth is around 6%, EBITDA growth is 4%, and EPS growth is 6%, with a net leverage exit of 3.18 times.
Q: With the significant increase in inpatient rehabilitation facility (IRF) beds, how do these facilities mature, and what are the expected start-up costs? A: Martin Jackson noted that the IRF bed count will increase by over 30% in the next 18 months. These facilities mature quickly due to the joint venture model, leading to significant double-digit EBITDA growth expected in 2026 and 2027.
Q: What are the leverage targets post-Concentra separation, and how does this align with the company's optimal debt load? A: Martin Jackson stated that the company expects to maintain leverage between 3 to 3.1 times in 2025 due to high activity in the inpatient rehab side, with expectations to be well below that in 2026 and beyond.
Q: Can you explain the lower margins in the inpatient rehab segment this quarter and the outlook for 2025? A: Robert Ortenzio, Executive Chairman, attributed the lower margins to start-up losses, integration costs, and a temporary drop in referrals due to Hurricane Helene. For 2025, margins are expected to be constrained due to start-up losses, but the situation is improving.
Q: How is the outpatient rehab segment expected to perform, and what factors are driving growth? A: Martin Jackson highlighted that outpatient rehab EBITDA is expected to grow double digits. Growth is driven by increased net revenue per visit, improved commercial contract negotiations, and enhanced clinical productivity through technology upgrades.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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