Release Date: February 25, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss how Cliffs navigates the evolving tariff environment, its implications on price and demand, and what the strategy is for the recently acquired Stelco asset? A: Lourenco Goncalves, CEO, explained that tariffs are necessary and beneficial for Cleveland-Cliffs. Stelco's primary business is in Canada, and any negative impact from tariffs will be offset by benefits to the rest of the company's footprint. He noted that Stelco's best financial year was during a period of tariffs, indicating potential positive outcomes.
Q: How did pricing change for the January resets on fixed contracts for flat-rolled products, and what is the updated sensitivity for steelmaking ASPs? A: Lourenco Goncalves, CEO, stated that Stelco operates primarily on spot pricing, which is advantageous in the current environment. Fixed contract negotiations are going well, with a shift back to domestic suppliers like Cleveland-Cliffs due to a more favorable pricing environment compared to 2024.
Q: Is there a possibility of pausing debt paydown for share repurchases if equity remains under pressure? A: Lourenco Goncalves, CEO, emphasized that the focus remains on debt reduction, with a target of 2.5 times EBITDA. He stated there are no plans for share repurchases, as paying down debt is seen as the best way to build equity value.
Q: Can you provide an update on capital expenditures and the status of projects like Middletown and Butler? A: Lourenco Goncalves, CEO, outlined a clear CapEx plan for 2025, including $500 million for legacy operations, $100 million for Stelco, and $100 million for projects at Middletown, Butler, and Weirton. He noted that the projects are progressing well, with Weirton and Butler moving quickly.
Q: What are the conditions for potentially restarting the Cleveland Works number six blast furnace? A: Lourenco Goncalves, CEO, stated that there are no current plans to restart the C6 blast furnace, which remains idled indefinitely. The decision will depend on future market conditions and strategic considerations.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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