Release Date: February 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you elaborate on the 13% volume growth in North America this quarter and its impact on Q1? A: Eifion Jones, CFO, explained that the 13% volume growth was due to strong in-quarter demand and increased early buy orders. However, a smaller proportion of early buy was shipped in 2024 compared to 2023, setting up a stronger backlog for 2025. Kevin Holleran, CEO, added that hurricane activity also contributed to the strong demand in Q4.
Q: How are tariffs affecting your business, particularly with China, Mexico, and Canada? A: Kevin Holleran, CEO, stated that 85% of North American sales are produced locally, with the rest sourced from China and Europe. The impact of tariffs is being assessed, especially for Tier 2 and Tier 3 components. Eifion Jones, CFO, added that they are prepared to implement price increases to offset any tariff-related costs.
Q: Why does the guidance imply flat EBITDA margins for next year despite strong performance this year? A: Eifion Jones, CFO, noted that while 2024 saw better-than-expected margin growth, the 2025 guidance reflects a pragmatic approach. The focus is on a two-year stack basis, showing strong conversion rates and margin growth over the medium term.
Q: Can you discuss the resilience of the non-discretionary aftermarket and its impact on your guidance? A: Kevin Holleran, CEO, explained that over 80% of revenue comes from the aftermarket, with a significant portion being non-discretionary. Despite pressures on new construction and remodels due to high interest rates, the non-discretionary segment remains resilient and reliable.
Q: What are your expectations for working capital improvements and free cash flow conversion in 2025? A: Eifion Jones, CFO, highlighted focused initiatives on working capital, including inventory and accounts receivable management. The company expects further improvements in cash conversion cycles, contributing to strong free cash flow conversion in 2025.
Q: How is the SKU rationalization initiative progressing, and what impact will it have on margins? A: Eifion Jones, CFO, stated that SKU rationalization is aimed at improving infrastructure quality and working capital efficiency. The initiative, ongoing for 18 months, focuses on promoting technology-based products and rationalizing raw materials, which will be accretive to margins over time.
Q: What are the assumptions for North America versus international growth in the 2025 guidance? A: Kevin Holleran, CEO, mentioned that North America is expected to see higher growth compared to Europe and Rest of World, with a 1% contribution from the ChlorKing acquisition. Eifion Jones, CFO, added that FX headwinds will be more pronounced in Europe and Rest of World.
Q: How does the warranty period affect replacement opportunities for products sold during the pandemic? A: Kevin Holleran, CEO, explained that most products have a three-year warranty, with some online SKUs having a one-year warranty. As products sold during the pandemic start coming off warranty, replacement opportunities are expected to increase in the coming years.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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