Release Date: February 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the booking trends across different brands and geographies? A: Harry Sommer, President and CEO, stated that they are pleased with the booking pace, particularly in Europe and Alaska, which have outperformed for the summer period. The luxury brands are slightly slower than expected, while the Norwegian Cruise Line brand is performing better. Overall, bookings are steady and where they need to be.
Q: How much of the 2024 cost savings were a pull forward versus overachievement? Is there more upside to the $300 million target? A: Harry Sommer noted that cost savings came quicker than expected, and Mark Kempa, CFO, added that they overachieved in year one but continue to see opportunities in 2025 and 2026. They are guiding cost growth below inflation, demonstrating confidence in their efficiency initiatives without impacting guest experience.
Q: Why is there an expected occupancy loss in 2025, and is there an opportunity to improve this? A: Harry Sommer explained that the occupancy loss in Q1 is due to dry dock and repositioning cruises, which naturally have lower load factors. For the rest of the year, a mix issue with longer itineraries and a shift in deployment accounts for the small change in occupancy.
Q: Can you elaborate on the demand for Europe and any geopolitical impacts on bookings? A: Harry Sommer mentioned that demand for Europe has been strong, not particularly related to the strong US dollar. The week of the election was challenging, but normal booking patterns resumed afterward. There have been no significant changes in booking behavior due to geopolitical events.
Q: How are you thinking about capacity growth and potential ship retirements? A: Harry Sommer stated that while they always consider market conditions, their oldest ships are from 1998 and 1999, and they believe ships can last 35 years or more. The fleet is well-maintained, and there are no imminent retirements planned. Mark Kempa added that recent financial activities provide flexibility for future decisions.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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