Release Date: February 28, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide details on the expectations for same-store revenue growth in 2025 for home health, hospice, and senior living? A: Lynette Walbom, CFO, stated that they are projecting about a 7% increase in revenue for same-store operations, excluding the Signature Healthcare acquisition. John Gochnour, COO, added that recent trends suggest opportunities for improvement, particularly in home health and hospice, with optimism for continued growth in both segments.
Q: How does the legislative funding environment in Washington impact your business, particularly with Medicaid exposure? A: John Gochnour, COO, explained that Medicaid primarily affects their senior living business, accounting for about 15% of their revenue. He expressed optimism that essential services like home health and hospice, which offer cost-effective care, will not face significant cuts. The company is prepared to adjust to any changes, with a resilient model and transparent visibility for local operators.
Q: Is there a different level or magnitude of earnings ramp expected in 2025 compared to previous years? A: Brent Guerisoli, CEO, indicated that while they expect a similar ramp to previous years, the integration of new acquisitions might result in a more aggressive ramp throughout the year, with a lighter start and stronger finish.
Q: What are the drivers of EBITDA margin improvement in 2025, particularly regarding recently acquired assets and same-store trends? A: Lynette Walbom, CFO, noted that margin improvements will be influenced by integrating new acquisitions and improving cost control measures. They expect home health margins to remain similar to 2024, while senior living margins are anticipated to increase as occupancy and cost controls improve.
Q: How are you addressing the hospice cap issue, and what impact might it have in 2025? A: John Gochnour, COO, explained that the hospice cap issue is primarily in California due to reimbursement rates. The company is focusing on adjusting referral patterns to manage the cap impact, expecting some continued drag in 2025 but aiming to minimize it significantly.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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