Release Date: March 06, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How do you see the momentum from Q4 carrying over into 2025, especially with the business development team built out? What are your thoughts on fee-for-service and gaining share there? A: Barbara Jacobsmeyer, President and CEO, stated that they are confident in continuing the growth momentum in hospice due to the fully implemented case management model and the establishment of admissions departments in every region. For home health, they are now able to focus on being a full-service provider, which has already shown positive census growth from January to February, with a balanced payer mix.
Q: What visibility do you have on payer innovation contracts, and how do you plan to convert non-payer contracts into better-paying deals with MA plans? A: Barbara Jacobsmeyer explained that there is a strong pipeline of regional plans interested in moving towards episodic arrangements. The company is actively working with these plans, emphasizing the benefits of episodic contracts, which place responsibility on providers to manage visits and maintain quality outcomes.
Q: Regarding the home health payer innovation side, how do the 49 new opportunities and 31 renegotiated agreements relate to 2025 guidance? Is there potential upside to the guidance? A: Ryan Soloman, CFO, mentioned that the guidance is consistent with previous investor presentations, expecting $19 million to $21 million in revenue improvement based on pricing. The guidance does not assume any significant incremental revenue from payer innovation contracts beyond the CMS final rate rule and recently negotiated agreements.
Q: Can you break down the components of hospice revenue per day increase, considering the tough comparison from last year? A: Ryan Soloman noted that the hospice cap accrual benefit was approximately $1.4 million. When normalized, the revenue per day increase aligns with expectations from the Medicare rate increase, excluding the accrual benefit.
Q: What are the primary headwinds in 2025 regarding cost structure, and how do you plan to address them? A: Ryan Soloman highlighted wage inflation and normalization of incentive compensation expenses as primary headwinds. The company plans to offset these through productivity improvements and optimizing staffing, aiming for a 2% to 3% increase in unit costs year over year.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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