Release Date: March 04, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How insulated are the 2021 to 2023 vintages from prepayments given the current rate environment? A: Brandon Filson, CFO, explained that the 2021 to 2023 vintages have weighted average coupons in the 5% range. Significant rate declines, around 150 to 200 basis points, would be needed to trigger substantial prepayments. The current environment suggests these vintages are well insulated from prepayments.
Q: What is the expected incremental yield from re-securitizing older securitizations? A: Brandon Filson noted that older securitizations, like the 2019 vintages, have delevered and currently yield around 8%. Re-securitizing could increase yields to approximately 12% during the aggregation phase and 15% once securitized.
Q: Can you discuss the outlook for net interest income (NII) growth in 2025? A: Brandon Filson stated that NII is expected to continue growing throughout 2025, supported by ongoing securitization activities and a strong loan pipeline. The company is confident in its ability to maintain and increase NII as it capitalizes on current market conditions.
Q: How do you view the non-QM market in light of potential regulatory changes? A: Brandon Filson expressed optimism about the non-QM market, suggesting that potential regulatory changes could expand the market by shifting loans away from GSEs. However, he acknowledged that regulatory outcomes remain uncertain.
Q: What is the company's stance on using cash from securitizations for stock repurchases? A: Brandon Filson indicated that while the senior unsecured market is open, the company prefers to use capital for investments yielding 15% to 20% returns rather than stock repurchases, given the current dividend yield of around 13%.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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