Release Date: March 12, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Do you still expect EBITDA per mature club to reach EUR460,000, given the current figure is EUR399,000? A: Rene Moos, CEO: We expect to reach EUR460,000 EBITDA per club in the near term, but not this year. We anticipate achieving this target by 2026 or 2027, as we integrate the last COVID cohort in 2025.
Q: Why have you opted for a modest share buyback program and a significant cut in new club openings? A: Rene Moos, CEO: The decision to reduce club openings was made to improve the balance sheet and focus on franchise opportunities. The share buyback was a logical step given our cash flow projections, but it was not directly linked to the reduction in club openings.
Q: Can you provide more details on the EUR35 million investment in 24/7 gyms, particularly in Germany and Spain? A: Rene Moos, CEO: Over 90% of the EUR35 million cost is allocated to France due to staffing requirements. In Spain and Germany, costs are limited as we use a camera system for security. The investment aims to enhance member service and is expected to increase membership over time.
Q: Is there any possibility of lobbying for a change in French law to allow unstaffed clubs? A: Rene Moos, CEO: We have been lobbying for years, and while it takes time, we hope for a change eventually. We are prepared with a safe system for when the French government is ready to allow unstaffed clubs.
Q: Will the 100 club openings this year and next year include M&A, and when will the share buyback start? A: Rene Moos, CEO: The 100 club openings are organic and do not include M&A. The share buyback will start soon and will be completed within 12 months.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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