Q1 2025 Virtus Investment Partners Inc Earnings Call

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Participants

Sean Rourke; Vice President - Investor Relations; Virtus Investment Partners Inc

George Aylward; President, Chief Executive Officer, Director; Virtus Investment Partners Inc

Michael Angerthal; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Treasurer; Virtus Investment Partners Inc

Ben Budish; Analyst; Barclays

Bill Katz; Analyst; TD Cowen

Presentation

Operator

Good morning. My name is [Dei], and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Virtus Investment Partners quarterly conference call. The slide presentation for this call is available in the investor relations section of the Virtus website www.virtus.com.
This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the Virtus website. (Operator Instructions)
I will now turn the conference to your host Sean Rourke.

Sean Rourke

Thanks, TD, and good morning, everyone. On behalf of Virtus Investment Partners, I'd like to welcome you to the discussion of our operating and financial results for the first quarter of 2025.
Our speakers today are George Aylward, President and CEO, and Michael Angerthal, Chief Financial Officer. Following their prepared remarks, we'll have a Q&A period.
Before we begin, please note the disclosures on page 2 of the slide presentation. Certain matters discussed on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1,995.
And as such, are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, including but not limited to those factors set forth in today's news release and discussed in our SEC filings. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in the statements.
In addition to results presented on a GAAP basis, we use certain non-GAAP measures to evaluate our financial results. A non-GAAP, financial measures are not substitutes for GAAP financial results and should be read in conjunction with the GAAP results. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's news release and financial supplement, which are available on our website.
Now I'd like to turn the call over to George.

George Aylward

George, thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. I'll start today with an overview of the results reported this morning and then give it over to Mike for more detail.
Market performance volatility we're challenging in the first quarter, leading to lower assets under management. And while we had net outflows, we continued to deliver solid financial and operating results. Key highlights included higher earnings per share over the prior year period, increased sales and fixed income strategies across products, positive net flows in ETFs.
Very strong relative investment performance, especially through the recent volatility, a higher level of share repurchases, and a solid balance sheet of quarter ran providing ongoing flexibility to invest in the business and return capital.
The markets we've been experiencing, which continue in the second quarter with a heightened level of uncertainty and volatility, is the type of environment in which active managers can demonstrate their value.
In our equity offerings, several of our managers employ high conviction or high quality orientations that seek to deliver strong investment performance and provide a level of downside protection in difficult markets. On the fixed income side, we offer multiple strategies across the spectrum of credit quality and duration with products that are attractive in a variety of rate environments.
We are pleased with the investment performance our managers have generated. In the first quarter, over 70% of our equity strategies beat their benchmarks, reflecting the benefit of quality active management and challenging markets.
Our strategies have also consistently outperformed over market cycles, with 74% of equity assets meeting benchmarks over the 10-year period. We're pleased that our long-term performance was recognized again by Barron's, which identified us as the number Top 2 fund family for the 10-year period. They also rank us as the third top fund family in the taxable bond category for 2024.
In terms of product development, we remain very active in expanding offerings in our key focus areas, including ETFs, global funds, and retail separate accounts. For ETFs and global funds, we have several strategies under development and products and filing that we expect to launch over the next few quarters, including our first interval fund.
Retail separate accounts, we completed structural steps to facilitate an increase in our fixed income offerings of retail separate accounts. We've also continued to expand the asset raising efforts of our $8.5 billion wealth management business and our expanding resources to support that effort.
Turning now to a review of the results, total asset management were $167.5 billion on March 31st, down sequentially due to market performance and net outflows. Total sales of $6.2 billion compared with $6.4 billion in the fourth quarter and were generally stable across products despite the market disruption in March.
Settle net outflows of $3 billion improved from $4.8 billion as the prior quarter included a large partial redemption. Reviewing by product for institutional net outflows of $1.2 billion were primarily due to domestic and global large GAAP equity strategies, partially offset by positive net flows in small and mid-cap equities, as well as emerging market debt.
We continue to see interest in our institutional offerings from investors seeking differentiated active managers with strong investment performance, and it continues to be broad representation of sales across our managers, geographies and investment strategies.
Retail separate accounts were in net outflows in the quarter, largely reflecting the soft closing of the mid-cap core equity model offering late last year. Assets in that strategy had grown significantly, and it was soft closed to limit ongoing asset growth in order to protect future returns. We continue to offer other mid-cap strategies, as well as midcap, in which we have significant capacity.
Open-end fund net outflows of $1.1 billion were essentially unchanged sequentially. Consistent with market trends, US retail fund net outflows were driven by equity strategies partially offset by positive net flows in fixed income. ETF assets reached $3.4 billion on continued strong positive net flows of $0.3 billion. Over the past year, ETFs generated an organic growth rate of 73%.
In terms of what we're seeing in April, investors continue to take stock of ongoing market volatility and uncertainty and remain cautious with their investment decisions. Trends in retail remain relatively consistent with the latter part of the first quarter. For institutional, known redemptions do slightly exceed known wins, but institutional flows are hard to predict.
No one wins a broad base, representing six managers, eight strategies, and include both US and non-US clients. Our first quarter financial results reflected the impact of seasonally higher employment expenses, excluding those items, the operating margin was 32.7%. Earnings per share as adjusted of $5.73 declined in the fourth quarter, due in part to $1.01 per share of seasonal employment expenses. On the more comparable year-over-year basis, earnings per share, as adjusted, increased 6%.
Turning now to capital, we continue to take a balanced approach to our capital management by investing in our growth, returning capital to shareholders, and maintaining appropriate levels of leverage. During the quarter, we used $26 million to repurchase or net settle approximately 146,000 shares. Over the past year, our repurchases have reduced shares outstanding by 3% on a net basis.
In addition, we made a $23 million revenue participation payment which reduced our contingent liability to $40 million. The bulk of the remaining revenue participation obligation will be paid in the first quarter of next year.
Similarly, our final staged equity purchase of our majority owned affiliate will be made in the third quarter of this year. We ended the quarter in a modest net debt position as the first quarter represents our highest quarter of cash utilization, given the timing of annual incentives and a revenue participation payment.
Our low level leverage and significant cash flow generation provide ongoing opportunities to invest in the growth of the business and return capital to shareholders.
With that I'll turn the goal over to Mike.

Michael Angerthal

Thank you, George. Good to be with you all this morning.
Starting with our results on slide 7 assets under management. Our total assets under management of March 31st were $167.5 billion and represented a broad range of products and asset classes.
By product, institutional is our largest category at 34% of AUM, retail separate accounts, including wealth management at 28% and US retail mutual funds at 27%. The remaining 11% comprises closed-end funds, global funds, and ETFs. We are also diversified within asset classes. Inequities between international and domestic and within domestic well represented among mid, small and large cap strategies.
And fixed income is well diversified across duration, credit quality, and geography. We continue to have compelling relative investment performance across products and strategies. As of March 31st, 71% of rated retail fund assets and 33 funds at four or five stars. And 86% were in 34-, or five-star funds.
In addition, 61% of Fund AUM outperformed the median of their peer groups over the five-year period. ETFs have also had strong performance, with 91% of ETF assets exceeding median peer performance for the three-year period and 12 of our 14 rated ETFs were rated 34, or five stars.
And as George discussed, recent performance, particularly by our quality equity managers, has been compelling through the first quarter market volatility, with 73% of equity AUM beating benchmarks in the quarter.
Turning to slide A as it flows. Sales of $6.2 billion compared with $6.4 billion in the fourth quarter as higher sales of fixed income strategies were offset by lower sales across other asset classes reviewing by product.
Institutional sales of $1.5 billion were relatively unchanged from $1.6 billion last quarter. As higher fixed income sales, particularly emerging markets, dead. We offset by lower alternatives and equity strategies. Retail separate account sales of $1.7 billion were also essentially unchanged from $1.8 billion in the prior quarter.
With lower smit cap sales mostly offset by higher small cap, large cap, and fixed income. open-end fund sales of $3 billion were unchanged, with higher sales of alternative. Fixed income, and multi-asset strategies offset by equities. Within open-end funds, ETF sales were again strong at $0.4 billion. We continue to prioritize new ETF capabilities and further availability through intermediaries.
Total net outflows of $3 billion compared with $4.8 billion last quarter. Reviewing by product institutional net outflows of $1.2 billion improved from $3.8 billion in the prior quarter. By strategy within institutional we have positive net flows and emerging markets debt and small and mid-cap equity strategies.
As always, institutional flows will fluctuate depending on the timing of client actions. Retail separate accounts had net outflows of $0.7 billion, largely related to the soft flows of certain mid-cap equity model offerings late last year.
For open-end funds, net outflows of $1.1 billion were at essentially the same level as the prior quarter with positive net flows in fixed income strategies. Within open-end funds, ETFs continued to generate a double-digit organic growth rate with $0.3 billion of positive net flows.
Turning to slide 9, investment management fees as adjusted of $178.5 million decreased 7%, reflecting lower average assets under management and higher performance fees in the prior quarter. The average fee rate was 41.7 basis points and compared with 42 basis points in the fourth quarter. Excluding performance fees from both periods, the average fee rate was unchanged sequentially at 41.7 basis points.
Looking ahead, we continue to believe an average fee rate in the range of 41 basis points to 42 basis points is reasonable for modeling purposes. With performance fees of $3 million to $5 million per year incremental to that range.
As always, the fee rate will be impacted by the markets and the mix of assets. Slide 10 shows the five-quarter trend in employment expenses. Total employment expenses as adjusted at $109.4 million increased 5% sequentially, reflecting $10 million of seasonal employment expenses related to the timing of annual incentives primarily incremental payroll taxes and benefits.
Excluding the seasonal items, employment expenses decreased by 5% sequentially primarily due to lower profit-based variable incentive compensation. Employment expenses were 55.4% of revenues as adjusted. With a sequential increase due to the seasonal expenses. Excluding those items, employment expenses were 50.3% of revenues.
If markets remain at current levels, it is reasonable to anticipate employment expenses as a percentage of revenues would be at the higher end of our outlook range of 49% to 51%. As always, it will be variable based on market performance in particular as well as profits and sales.
Turning to slide 11. Other operating expenses as adjusted continued to be in a relatively stable range as we have offset increasing costs with active expense management. For the quarter, other operating expenses were $31.3 million essentially unchanged from the prior quarter.
As a percentage of first quarter revenues, other operating expenses were 15.8%. Up from 14.6% in the fourth quarter due to lower revenues. Looking ahead, we continue to be focused on managing these expenses within a narrow range.
For example, we have reduced our office space in several locations and expect to generate savings of approximately $1 million per quarter from those activities starting in the third quarter of this year. Actions like these will help us continue to maintain a quarterly range of $30 million to $32 million, which remains reasonable for modeling purposes, all else being equal.
In addition, keep in mind that our annual board of directors' equity grants occur in the second quarter. Slide 12 illustrates the trend in earnings. Operating income as adjusted to $54.6 million declined from $74.5 million sequentially. In large part due to the seasonal employment expenses.
Excluding those items, operating income decreased 13%, primarily due to lower average assets under management. Looking at the more comparable year-over-year period, operating income declined 3%. The operating margin has adjusted of 27.6% compared with 35.1% in the fourth quarter.
Excluding the seasonal employment expenses, the operating margin was 32.7%. With respect to non-operating items, interest expense declined by $0.5 million, reflecting a lower effective interest rate on our term loan and lower average gross debt.
non-controlling interests which reflect minority interests in one of our managers were lower sequentially by $0.2 million. Net income as adjusted of $5.73 per diluted share, which included $1.01 of seasonal expenses compared with $7.50 in the fourth quarter has increased 6% over the prior year period.
In terms of GAAP results, net income per share of $4.05 decreased from $4.66 per share in the fourth quarter and included $0.94 of realized and unrealized losses on investments, partially offset by $0.35 of fair value adjustments to minority interests. Slide 13 shows the trend of our capital liquidity and select balance sheet items.
As a reminder, the first quarter typically represents our highest quarter of cash utilization during the year due to the timing of annual incentives and the revenue participation payments. In addition to return of capital to shareholders through the dividends, share repurchases, and net settlements cash and equivalent at March 31st were $135.4 million.
In addition, we had $143 million of seed capital investments to support growth initiatives and $132.8 million of other investments, primarily in our managed CLOs. Working capital was $137.2 million, up 2% from $134.5 million as cash generated more than offset return of capital and the revenue participation payment.
During the first quarter, we repurchased 111,200 shares of common stock for $20 million and net settled 35,178 shares for $6.1 million to satisfy employee tax obligations. We also made a $23.1 million dollar revenue participation payment reducing the contingent consideration liability by 36% to $40.4 million. The majority of that liability will be paid next year in the first quarter.
At March 31st, gross debt to EBITDA was 0.7 times unchanged from December 31st and we ended the quarter with $100 million of net debt or 0.3 times EBITDA. EBITDA in the first quarter while down sequentially due to seasonal employment items was up modestly from the prior year level.
Our adequate levels of working capital and modest leverage provide financial flexibility to continue to invest in the business and return capital. And finally, as I've previously noted, our intangible assets continue to provide a cash tax benefit, which is not included in our earnings per share as adjusted.
The net present value of the tax asset is approximately $112 million or $16 on a per share basis.
And with that, let me turn the call back over to George.

George Aylward

Thanks Mike. So, we will now take all of your questions. Didi, would you open up the lines, please?

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions)
Ben Budish, Barclays.

Ben Budish

Hi, good morning and thank you for taking the question. Maybe just to start, I think you indicated the fee rate going forward was probably going to be in between the range. Can you provide any more color on where things are kind of shaking out as we get into April?
And then I was wondering if you could also touch on just some of the fee rate changes, we saw in the quarter. US retail funds a little bit lower. ETFs seem to be trending higher. I'm sure there's, mix within the mix, but any additional color there would be helpful.

Michael Angerthal

Yeah, hey Ben, as the fee rate will be impacted, by many factors including the markets, fee rate differential on, sales versus redemptions, but, the market's impacted the fee rate really the change as you noted on the open-end funds was due to the mix of assets, really the change from some of the higher fee rate on the equity side to just a slightly lower fee on.
On the fixed income side, notably, fee rate in and of itself does not have an impact or directly reflect profitability, still targeting incremental margins in that 50% to 55% range. So just currently as we look ahead, I do think that the range that we talked about is appropriate for modeling and if there are any updates to that, we'll reflect that and communicate it accordingly.

Ben Budish

Understood. Maybe a follow up just on the capital allocation side, you bought more shares in the quarter than you had in the past several quarters, just, I know you're always cognizant of liquidity in your stock but curious what your appetite is, just kind of given the recent share performance and market backdrop?

George Aylward

Yeah, so I mean, as you commented, we always evaluate, our alternative uses of capital every quarter, and one of the factors we do evaluate is, our relative perspective on how our stock is trading and as you correctly note, we did increase the amount of repurchases we did compared to prior quarters, so that will continue to be a factor as we sort of decide what the next repurchase levels will be, but currently, as Mike indicated in his comments, we're still at low levels of leverage.
We're currently generating a lot of cash flow again, and while we do invest in the business, we do think return of capital is critical and again we're very cognizant of, our perspective on how that stock is trading. So that absolutely will figure into how our decisions on what to do in the next few quarters.

Ben Budish

Understood. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

(Operator Instructions)
Bill Katz, TD Cowen.

Bill Katz

Great, thanks very much. So just starting with the SMAs, that has been a nice driver for you over the last number of quarters, and it flipped negative, and I think you mentioned in this quarter that you mentioned that you had soft closed a vehicle.
Can you just show the size how big that vehicle is, what percentage of the 2024 flows that represents? And then as you look across your broader SMAs platform, are there any other vehicles that might be facing some kind of capacity constraints?

George Aylward

Yeah, so for SMAs that has been an area where we've consistently had, growth over a period of time and as we indicated, and one of the strategies have been very successful, there was an appropriate soft closing of that.
And that was coincident then obviously then with the challenges in the market in the first quarter, right? So as whenever we have a strategy that we put through a soft close, our goal is really just to then encourage investors to consider other alternative or similar strategies.
And in that case we actually have very similar strategies. That was the cap core. We have other very attractive strategies as well in the mid-cap, but again we were trying to do that in the in the quarter of a little bit of volatility and uncertainty in terms of how investors should behave.
But our offerings are generally, broad-based, as indicated in the last quarter, we've incubated and launched several new strategies. Some of my comments in the beginning of today's call, I indicated that we've done some additional structural changes in terms of.
In enhancing our ability to expand the number of fixed income SMAs, so we continue to be focused on taking advantage of the fact that we have been successful with SMAs and their growth and then continuing to just make more offerings available through them for the specifics on the strategy's capacity might.

Michael Angerthal

Yeah, I think. We feel good about capacity and don't have any specific capacity constraints on other areas in in the retail channel, and I think what we've been pleased with is moving up in the capitalization we've seen mid-cap, looking year-over-year on the sales in midcap, they're up meaningfully and we've been able to at other times increase larger capitalizations as we've soft closed other products, whether it's small cap or now midcap. So, we've seen and had success in moving up the capitalization.
And feel very good about mid-cap both on the core, specifically on the core side, and there is significant available capacity in that area. We do expect that to be a contributor to growth going forward.

Bill Katz

Okay, and then just maybe a big picture question. I know we've chatted about this over the last couple of quarters, and I think usually when you make any kind of strategic change, it tends to be in the first quarter of the new year. And just what's your latest thinking in terms of trying to better monetize the deferred tax asset by transitioning that to a potentially lower effective tax rate as it affects adjusted earnings from here?

George Aylward

Yeah, I think you're referring to the tax attributes and the presentation of those tax attributes. I don't necessarily know if it's monetizing the tax attributes. It's more of a reporting factor because we are, achieving the economic benefit from those tax attributes. We did provide just the latest context around that on an NPV basis.
I think it comes out to around $16 a share and we've talked about there being a divergence in practice where some industry participants will modify and adjust their tax rate and estimate that and lower their tax rate. So, we do continue to evaluate it. It's important to us to provide transparency because there is real value that we do achieve from those tax benefits.
So we'll continue to evaluate and ensure. We think we're providing the appropriate transparency to ensure investors ascribe the value that we know is there, and on a sort of adjusting it from an EPS basis, it does come out like $2.50 per year.
So if you want to just do the math that extends on a per share basis rather than thinking of it as an asset, it's about $2.50 per share. But we'll continue to provide that transparency and ensure investors are aware that that is an area that does provide value in the cash flow generation of the business.

Bill Katz

Great, thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Aylward.

George Aylward

Great. Well, thank you so much and again, as always, I want to thank everyone today for joining us and encourage you to reach out if you have any other further questions.
Thank you.

Operator

That concludes today's call.
Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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