Release Date: November 04, 2024
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: You continue to expect pricing to move higher over time, but with the 2023 inventory being down only 2% year over year, what happens if the EPA does not accelerate the phase-down? A: Brian Coleman, CEO: It's possible that prices could remain lower for longer if the EPA does not accelerate the phase-down. We are concerned about the allowance structure for 2025-2028, which might not decline sufficiently relative to demand. We would support a petition to lower consumption allowances during this period.
Q: Can you explain the petition process to challenge the EPA's allowance structure? A: Brian Coleman, CEO: A petition would involve presenting a rationale with specific evidence, such as inventory data, to reduce annual consumption allowances. Although the EPA has issued a rule for 2024-2028, it can be challenged and amended. Europe has done this by lowering annual allowances below the minimum levels.
Q: How is the integration of USA Refrigerants progressing, and is it helping with the recovery of refrigerants? A: Brian Bertaux, CFO: The integration is going well, bringing in new customers and providing additional sources for reclaim refrigerants. We are now applying USA's strategies to Hudson's existing customer base, particularly those acquired from Airgas.
Q: What was the litigation settlement gain related to? A: Brian Coleman, CEO: It was related to a commercial dispute that was settled at the end of the quarter.
Q: Given the slower depletion rate of 2023 inventory, do you expect any price uptick during the 2025 cooling season? A: Brian Coleman, CEO: It's difficult to predict pricing. We saw a greater decline this year than anticipated, and we may enter next year with similar pricing dynamics. We rely on supply-demand economics rather than allowance holders' actions.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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