Cia Paranaense De Energia Copel (ELP) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong Net Income ...

GuruFocus.com
2024-11-09
  • Adjusted EBITDA: Exceeded BRL1.2 billion year-to-date.
  • Net Income: Reported net income surpassed BRL1.2 billion, including extraordinary events totaling approximately BRL645 million.
  • Divestment Impact: BRL170 million from Compagas and UEGA divestments; BRL175 million from Copel G&T real estate sale.
  • Dividends: Declared BRL485 million to be paid on November 29.
  • Personnel Costs: Reduced by 11.2% after adjusting for inflation.
  • Adjusted EBITDA (Q3 2024): BRL1.2 billion, 10.9% lower than Q3 2023.
  • Copel Distribution EBITDA: BRL607 million, an 8.7% increase from the previous year.
  • Generation and Transmission EBITDA: BRL649 million, affected by lower P mix and wind farm curtailment.
  • Trading EBITDA: BRL3.2 million, down from BRL20 million last year.
  • Recurring Net Income (Q3 2024): Exceeded BRL572 million, 16% higher than the previous quarter.
  • Reported Net Income (Year-to-Date): BRL2.2 billion, 61% above last year.
  • CapEx: 75% of the year's forecast paid, with Copel Dis accounting for 86% of the forecast.
  • Leverage: Net debt over EBITDA ratio at 1.5x, expected to change after grant bonus payment.
  • Operating Cash Generation: Exceeded BRL1 billion.
  • Warning! GuruFocus has detected 5 Warning Sign with ELP.

Release Date: November 07, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Cia Paranaense De Energia Copel (NYSE:ELP) reported an adjusted EBITDA exceeding BRL1.2 billion, with a reported net income also surpassing BRL1.2 billion.
  • The company successfully completed divestments at Compagas and UEGA, aligning with its decarbonization strategy and adding BRL170 million to net income.
  • Copel declared dividends of BRL485 million, equivalent to a 50% payout, demonstrating a commitment to shareholder returns.
  • The company executed a significant reduction in personnel costs, achieving an 11.2% drop by optimizing processes and ensuring service quality.
  • Copel's energy sales strategy resulted in a significant margin increase, with improved contracting levels for 2025 and 2026, positioning the company as an agile market player.

Negative Points

  • Copel G&T and COM faced challenges due to curtailment effects on wind assets and energy price decoupling between submarkets.
  • Adjusted EBITDA was 10.9% lower compared to the third quarter of 2023, primarily due to a reduction in average energy prices.
  • The trading segment's adjusted EBITDA dropped significantly to BRL3.2 million from almost BRL20 million last year, impacted by market price differences.
  • The company anticipates a change in leverage following the payment of a BRL4 billion grant bonus for hydroelectric plant concessions.
  • Curtailment levels in renewable generation, particularly in the Northeast, remain a concern, affecting the company's wind farm operations.

Q & A Highlights

Q: With the divestments, will Copel invest in transmission auctions in 2025 or 2026? A: Daniel Pimentel Slaviero, CEO: We do not plan to invest in transmission auctions for 2025 or 2026. Our focus is on organic opportunities and investments in Copel Distribuicao, with a CapEx of BRL3.29 billion announced for 2025.

Q: Given the comfortable leverage level, is there room to increase the dividend payout? A: Daniel Pimentel Slaviero, CEO: We maintain a leverage range of 1.5 to 2.7 times, with a minimum payout of 50%. Extraordinary events like asset sales are treated separately. We are working on optimizing our capital structure, which may include increasing dividends.

Q: Can you comment on the strategy for energy trading and the impact of hydrology on short-term prices? A: Rodolfo Lima, General Director: We anticipated the recent price drop and accelerated sales for 2025 and 2026. Our strategy involves locking in revenues and reducing risks, with opportunities to hedge against market volatility.

Q: What are the expectations for curtailment levels in Q4 2024 and early 2025? A: Daniel Pimentel Slaviero, CEO: Curtailment is expected to remain but at lower levels. Recent transmission line entries have improved energy transfer, and regulatory actions are anticipated to address this issue.

Q: How do you see the cost dynamics, especially with the increase in third-party services? A: Felipe Gutterres Ramella, CFO: The increase in third-party services is mainly due to quality maintenance efforts. We expect to see the full impact of cost reductions from the voluntary severance program in Q4 2024 and beyond.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

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