Release Date: November 07, 2024
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you unpack what you mean by the huge pool of profits in the payment space currently sitting with the banks and waiting for disruption? How quickly will this materialize for fintech in South Africa? A: Ali Mazanderani, Executive Chairman, explained that the biggest competitor is inefficiency. The banking space holds a large profit pool, particularly in merchant acquiring and ancillary services, with a total processed volume of about $100 billion by the big five South African banks. The net margin is around 100 basis points, representing about a billion dollars annually. He expects fintech disruptors to capture a significant market share, similar to trends seen in the UK, Europe, and Brazil over the last decade.
Q: In the merchant division, organic growth is slower than expected. How should we be thinking about the merchant business growth rates on an organic basis for full year 2025, excluding a Dumo? A: Ali Mazanderani noted that the company achieved the midpoint of its guidance for nine consecutive quarters. The guidance indicates a 30% year-on-year organic growth on a like-for-like basis. Steven Heilbron added that the merchant division expects 23% growth at the midpoint for FY25, aligning with historical performance, and emphasized the focus on disruption and bundled product offerings.
Q: The consumer segment had an excellent performance. What new products are in the pipeline, and what are the findings from your research behind considering increasing loan size and term? A: Lincoln C. Mali, CEO Southern Africa, stated that research showed clients demanded more credit than the current 2000 rand/6-month limit. The company plans to offer a product with a 4000 rand limit and a nine-month term. Additionally, the acquisition of a Dumo provides an opportunity to offer new products to a non-grant beneficiary consumer base.
Q: Can you provide an example of leveraging larger corporate customer relationships in the enterprise business? A: Dan Smith, Group CFO, explained that the enterprise division aims to build solutions for internal and external clients. Practical examples include expanding bill payment services to third parties and corporate customers, and offering tokenization services for security purposes to Telcos and municipalities.
Q: Please unpack the increase in group costs and explain the large working capital outflow. A: Dan Smith detailed that group costs increased due to new hires and scaling the platform, with expenses related to compliance, legal fees, and audit costs. The large working capital outflow was primarily due to the payment of annual staff bonuses and the timing difference in settling payables for VAS and bill payment services.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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