Release Date: January 16, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What is TSMC's long-term strategy for US expansion, especially considering recent developments like the relaxation of the N-1 restriction and meetings with key figures like Elon Musk? A: C.C. Wei, Chairman and CEO, explained that while TSMC is interested in ramping up the same technology in the US as in Taiwan, practical challenges make it difficult. The initial phase of new technology ramp-up needs to be close to R&D, which is based in Taiwan. TSMC's overseas expansion is driven by customer demand and requires government support. The company maintains open communication with both current and future US administrations.
Q: With gross margins approaching 60%, how should we think about TSMC's profitability in this cycle, especially with the US fab's cost implications? A: Wendell Huang, CFO, stated that while reaching 60% gross margin is possible under high utilization, US fab costs are higher due to smaller scale, higher supply chain prices, and an early-stage ecosystem. This results in a 2% to 3% margin dilution from overseas fabs annually over the next five years.
Q: How does TSMC view the growth potential of traditional applications like PC and smartphone in light of strong AI demand? A: C.C. Wei noted that while PC and smartphone growth is mild, AI integration into these devices increases silicon content and shortens replacement cycles. This, combined with technology migration, supports TSMC's confidence in a close to 20% CAGR over the next five years.
Q: What is TSMC's perspective on the impact of US export restrictions on China's AI business? A: C.C. Wei mentioned that the initial analysis shows the impact is manageable. TSMC is applying for special permits for affected customers and is confident that non-AI areas like automotive and industrial will receive permissions.
Q: Can you provide an update on TSMC's CoWoS capacity and its application beyond AI? A: C.C. Wei confirmed that while CoWoS is currently focused on AI, other products will adopt this approach in the future. TSMC is working hard to meet customer demand and expand capacity.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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