Release Date: February 04, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the impact of payment integrity issues and reverification programs on enrollment and effectuation rates? A: Mark Bertolini, CEO, explained that Oscar Health is tracking actual numbers of members who have paid their premiums, which stands at 1.8 million. This reflects a 9.1% impact of effectuation against the gross number of 1.98 million members. Scott Black (Trades, Portfolio), CFO, added that the effectuation rates are consistent year-over-year, and the company has incorporated potential risks from payment integrity issues into their revenue guidance.
Q: Why did the Medical Loss Ratio (MLR) come in above the high end of guidance, and are there any changes to interest expenses with the shift to earnings from operations? A: Mark Bertolini noted that utilization was as expected, and the MLR increase was due to risk adjustment settlements. Scott Black (Trades, Portfolio) added that the MLR pressure was driven by updated accruals based on risk reports, and the biggest difference between adjusted EBITDA and earnings from operations will be stock compensation and depreciation, with interest expenses expected to remain consistent.
Q: Can you clarify the 2025 guidance for earnings from operations and its relation to EBITDA? A: Scott Black (Trades, Portfolio) confirmed that the top end of the guidance for earnings from operations is $275 million, with an additional $140 million leading to an adjusted EBITDA of around $415 million. This aligns with the Street's expectations.
Q: What is the retention rate for SEP lives, and are there any dynamics that might affect the expected MLR improvement in 2025? A: Scott Black (Trades, Portfolio) stated that retention was solid, and the company expects the SEP cohort to have an MLR in 2025 similar to the rest of the open enrollment. The risk scores for the SEP population will mature, contributing to the expected MLR improvement.
Q: How does Oscar's pricing strategy ensure enrollment of active and intentional premium-paying members? A: Scott Black (Trades, Portfolio) explained that Oscar maintains a disciplined pricing strategy to balance growth and margin creation. The company works with CMS to ensure valid member enrollment and actively monitors brokers for irregularities, reporting any concerns to CMS.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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