Release Date: March 06, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the commercial agreement with Amazon and revenue expectations for 2025 compared to 2024? A: Omar Asali, CEO, explained that Ranpak is ramping up activities with Amazon, especially in the second half of the year due to seasonality. The company is expanding its dialogue with Amazon in the US, Europe, and Asia Pacific, covering various offerings like PPS and automation. Bill Drew, CFO, added that they expect double-digit volume growth with Amazon and are exploring asset-light models to optimize costs.
Q: How does the volume growth expectation for 2025 break down between paper and automation, and what are the forecasts for e-commerce versus industrial markets? A: Omar Asali noted that e-commerce, particularly with Amazon, will drive growth, alongside other enterprise accounts. The industrial market forecast is muted due to macroeconomic conditions. Automation is expected to grow over 50% in 2025. Bill Drew added that PPS volume growth is expected in the mid to high single digits, with automation contributing 3 to 5 points to overall growth.
Q: What are the expectations for EBITDA margins and free cash flow in 2025? A: William Drew stated that the focus is on cash generation to pay down debt. They expect EBITDA to be between $88 million to $97 million, with free cash flow around $20 million. This includes $36 million to $37 million in CapEx and $34 million in cash interest.
Q: Can you elaborate on the impact of the warrant expense related to Amazon on EBITDA? A: William Drew explained that the warrant expense, estimated at $3 million to $5 million for 2025, is tied to expected sales to Amazon. This expense will vary based on sales contributions and is expected to grow as sales increase.
Q: What is driving the growth in automation, and are there specific products or accounts contributing to this growth? A: Omar Asali mentioned that automation growth is driven by both large enterprise accounts and smaller orders. There are 3 to 4 large enterprises contributing significantly, with existing customers expanding their automation solutions. The growth is broad-based across various products and regions.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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